OK, let narrow this down. Is it ever justifiable to overthrow a government to secure human rights and freedoms? Democratic governments are not restrained from tyranny by the majority by anything except morality. If morality is indeterminate, why can’t the minority rebel against oppressive tyranny and overthrow it?
They shouldn’t, rather than they can’t, because it will make life worse for everyone - assuming that there’s actually a democratic government and said minority has the right to vote, to campaign and so forth. If that’s the case, working within the system will get them better results.
Also, as Smapti has made clear, saying you support overthrowing an elected government because you think they’re morally wrong necessarily means that you think anyone who disagrees with the government on moral grounds should fight it, no matter how reprehensible you find their views.
You are presuming that the minority has the same civil rights as the majority. In a democracy, it is the will of the majority that determines who has what rights that are not enumerated in the constitution. Plenty of latitude to oppress the minority and restrict their ability to legally challenge the oppression.
As there’s no such fucking thing, that’s alright, then. Sic semper tyrannis (sed solum tyrannum amo), eh?
Apparently, the Cambridge Dictionaries Online disagrees with you. Who woulda thunk it?
*legitimate
le·git·i·mate
(lə-jĭt′ə-mĭt)
adj.
1.
a. Being in compliance with the law; lawful: a legitimate business.
b. Being in accordance with established or accepted rules and standards: legitimate advertising practices.
c. Valid or justifiable: a legitimate complaint.
d. Based on logical reasoning: a legitimate deduction.
- Born of legally married parents: legitimate offspring.
3. Of, relating to, or ruling by hereditary right: a legitimate monarch.
- Of or relating to drama of high professional quality that excludes burlesque, vaudeville, and some forms of musical comedy: the legitimate theater.
I guess it is correct to say, “one shouldn’t overthrow legitimate monarchs either”.
No, that’s not a democracy. That’s one reason civil rights protests in the 60s were legitimate, and the “protests” in Ferguson by or on behalf of those who have the full right to vote and be voted for, ar not.
Also, for fuck’s sake, the “legitimate Monarch” thing was a joke based on someone’s comment about my nationality…
So for nearly 150 years, the United States was not a democracy? Because women didn’t get the right to vote until 1920, and the poll tax and poll tests for black voters were not abolished until 1964.
Yes, you guessed right. She is (was) black.
The cop involved was fired from his last job for being racist.
But… But… Her death has been ruled suicide! Isn’t that good enough for you?!?
At this point, I’m all for passing laws that charge every single cop that had anything to do with any suspect in custody who ends up dead at any point in the custodial chain with first-degree murder, with provisions that prevent the DA’s office from refusing to prosecute or plea-bargaining anything. The cops should have to pay for their own lawyers as well. That will destroy the Blue Wall once and for all. If the state doesn’t have capital punishment, it should be reinstated for custodial deaths. Make every cop go to trial. If they are innocent, the jury will decide that. Every other cop responsible gets fried. I’ve fucking had it.
And how do you propose to deal with the fact that nobody whatsoever is going to want to volunteer to become a police officer once they’re informed that they will be charged with capital murder and sentenced to death if anyone they ever come into contact with dies?
I’m good with that. 
“My persona” is who I am. I am incapable of pretending to be something I am not. If you are so absolutely certain that your own personal beliefs are absolutely true that you believe the only way someone can disagree with you is if they are lying, then the fault lies with you, not with the dissenter.
Then you acknowledge that you’re just an anarchist who believes that all police power is wrong and that anyone should be allowed to do whatever they feel like at any time.
Good to know.
No.
Because morality is indeterminate, any claim that one is rebelling against an “immoral” government is inherently invalid.
Given that cops have killed an average of 4 Americans/day so far this month, I’ll take my chances with anarchy. It’s safer.
I didn’t say the rebellion was against immorality, it is to secure human rights and freedoms. If morality is indeterminate, such a rebellion is not immoral. Right?
How many Americans per day have non-cops killed this month?
No rebellion is immoral, because morality is subjective and unprovable.
However, all rebellions are unlawful, regardless of what the rebels believe they’re killing in the name of.