Armed driver shoots cop dead.
You continue to insist that police should be expected to put their lives unnecessarily in danger when dealing with people who have already demonstrated a reckless disregard for human life and when they have no earthly way of knowing exactly how dangerous the situation they’re expected to enter may be.
She had a gun?
She could have had a gun. The officer had no way of knowing she didn’t, and she had already displayed a reckless disregard for human life and was continuing to attempt to attack the officers by ramming them with her vehicle.
So it is your position that every person should be assumed to be armed and therefore may be shot by any cop at any time?
You insist that no cop ever risk as much as a hangnail in an encounter and their best move is to shoot first and ask questions later.
It is my position that a criminal who resists arrest and acts in a threatening manner towards police cannot automatically be assumed to be unarmed simply because a gun has not been fired or brandished by them.
I realize that this is more subtlety than your “Shoot = Bad, No shoot = Good” worldview allows for.
I shouldn’t expect BobLibDem’s plan involved the cop walking up to the car with his hands in his pockets and whistling a jaunty tune. IF the driver had had a weapon and IF she had motioned to it or pointed it at anyone, THEN the cop who already has a bead on her could have fired. And it would have been a perfectly justified shot, too.
It’s not brain surgery, dude. Cops don’t get to fire on maybe’s and coulda’s. That’s not how it’s done, and that’s not how we, you know, the guys cutting their checks and for whom they fucking work, want them to do it. If they have a problem with that, they can find another job.
You continue to insist that cops should act like the whole world is out to get them, and therefore should shoot firstest, firster and never ever give anyone ever the benefit of any doubt whatsoever. Then maybe throw a Miranda card at the corpse or something. From a safe distance, of course. It’s, quite literally, insane.
Is it your position that anyone who resists arrest and acts in a threatening manner towards a police officer should be shot?
Isn’t this obvious? The answer will be unquestionably yes. Shot and killed preferably as this is what they deserve.
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The State Trooper on the scene asked for the chance to pull her out of the car. He believed (or was willing to take the chance) that he could get her out without undue risk to himself. The local cops fired anyway.
I’d be surprised if he’d be willing to concede even that. Just because the suspect is pointing a gun at you doesn’t mean it’s loaded, you know, and we pay cops to take risks like that, right?
Good luck finding people who want to police you under the terms you’re providing. You need them on that wall.
Strawman. I continue to insist only that a cop should not be obligated to value the life of a hostile subject more highly than their own.
It is my position that anyone who resists arrest and acts in a threatening manner towards a police officer may be justifiably shot if the officer believes that he is in danger.
Oh, that’s easy. You can find them in nearly every other country in the world!
At no time during that encounter did any officer bring up the possibility that she had a gun, or that she presented a real danger to them. They shot her because she wouldn’t stop moving her hemmed in vehicle back and forth, period.
Any danger or lethal danger?
Most of those countries don’t have a universal right to bear arms or the kind of easy accessibility to guns that Americans have. You take a unit of Norwegian cops and have them work a beat in Compton for a month and see if they still think they don’t need to be more proactive in order to go home in one piece.
In other words, they shot her because, by ramming them continuously, she presented a real danger.
Danger to life or limb.
She didn’t have a gun. Nobody thought she had a gun. Nobody brought up the possibility she had a gun. They shot her because she was denting their cars.
How about danger to their parked vehicles, schmuck?
The parked vehicles which they were inside of?