Well, even if he did point a gun at the cops, it’s probably the cops’ fault for hassling him over a minor crime. I mean, we don’t kill people for robbing gas stations in America, right? Look at how militarized and aggressive the police have become that their first response to having a gun pointed at them is to use force! Fascism is here, people!
I mean, really, does a child pointing a gun deserve a death sentence?
Is this a parody of passive-aggressive behaviour?
No disrespect.
(Post shortened because I loves me some of them ellipses.)
So, what if he did? Does one such situation prove anything? That there are bad people who are legitimately shot by the police? OK, then what does that prove? That such things happen, sure, OK. That they are the norm? OK, maybe, lets grant that for the sake of common ground.
Even if race-based police brutality were not common, exceptional, not the norm…then what? We shrug it off and tell ourselves this is all just exaggerated? Its not normal, so its not a problem until it becomes normal?
Then we ask ourselves why crowds of people are still gathering to “protest” legitimate self-defense shootings, and we ask if maybe this lot is less interested in justice than it is in blood, and we ask who is really acting out of a racial interest here.
No. Might it be necessary, given extraordinary circumstances? Yes. Have you any other really, really stupid questions?
Talk to yourself a lot, do you? Probably for the best, actually.
Why do you suppose people are gathering to protest a legitimate act of self-defense?
This link seems relevant, though slightly off-topic:
Off duty black cops in New York feel threatened by fellow police officers.
The argument that was ensuing, above, was whether or not the cops were telling the truth. If it turns out the victim did point a gun at the cops, then the argument is over. Yes, a new argument will probably spring up, but for now, that particular argument is about this particular incident.
If you’re referring to last night’s shooting, wasn’t the shot person 18 years old?
Also, child or not, isn’t a gun a gun? Are the bullets less deadly because a child wields the gun?
So was Brown. Still was referred to as a child a lot, wasn’t he?
Whooosh.
So, Terr, tell us, what would you do if you were a cop and an 18-year old pointed a gun at you?
Shoot him.
No; we recognize that the cops have harassed, assaulted and killed so many people so systematically while indulging in racism, homophobia, classism, bullying, theft and so forth that they’ve destroyed their moral authority among much of society, along with any trust for them.
So they can claim self defense all they like, and regardless of the truth of the claim they simply won’t be believed by much of the population. Since after all, the cops would claim it was self defense even if what actually happened is the cop killed the guy for fun, or out of bigotry, or out of incompetence, or to rob him.
NYC Resistance channel on YouTube
The guy is pretty savvy. He videos the cops from hiding so he doesn’t get his camera destroyed or himself arrested. In the linked video he talks to the victim after the plain cloths officers left. Apparently stop and frisk has gone underground and has not stopped.
No permission given by the guy for the search.
Good grief there are a lot of these. In this case a cop driving his squad car scrapes a parked SUV. Instead of fessing up, the cop arrests the SUV owner. Without the surveillance camera video the victim (SUV owner) would have been sunk.
I like how the license plate was bent up so the plate number was obscured, making ID difficult.
Cops tried to suppress the dash cam video, but it came out and saved the victim.
How many times are people falsely arrested and not saved by videos? Scary thought.
Last one. Merry Christmas.
Most of the protesters are protesting actions that they do not believe are legitimately self-defense. Eric Garner wasn’t killed in self-defense, for example. He was killed by the cops while they were trying to arrest him.