Student is disrupting the educational process. Teacher calls SRO to ask him to resolve this.
The appropriate resolution is to disrupt the educational process to an even greater extent?
A kid acting snotty in class is not a law enforcement situation and it’s not a situation that requires violence in any form toward the kid. Even my racist, recheck, gun toting, cop loving, co-worker was nearly sick at this video.
I have a hard time believing anyone thinks throwing her across the room was warranted. Ya’ll are just saying that because you don’t actually care, you only want to argue against anyone who dares question the police, right?
Tell me how the school resolves this without law enforcement help, without anyone getting sued, and without completely knuckling under and giving Her Majesty exactly what she wants, in such a way that wouldn’t provoke mass outrage from anti-authority reactionaries on the internet.
It’s a good thing that she was never “thrown across the room”, then.
Not using wildly disproportionate force. There are plenty of ways this could occur.
Speaking as a teacher, it would be less disruptive than having a student assaulted in my class room, at any rate.
You can be forgiven for your ignorance on a great many subjects, but as a martial arts instructor you really have no excuse for this dazzlingly moronic comment. That is, unless you are privy to a video other than the three I have watched.
The girl was being obstinate and a pain in the ass, that’s for sure. She did not “attack” the hulking, muscular cop who was attempting to wrench her out of her seat by the neck any more than I would be “attacking” you if I raised my hand to protect myself against one of your (no doubt devastating) flying kicks.
QFT. Well said.
I am not sure how you see this. The video is here.
At 3 seconds, the girl rips her arm away after the sheriff had grabbed it. At 4 seconds the sheriff is behind her and has but an arm around her neck. Immediately thereafter the girl tries to pull his arm off her neck and then it appears she ineffectually swipes at the sheriffs face as he is behind her. At 5 seconds the sheriff flips her in the desk and throws her to the floor. Are you saying the ineffectual swipes that the girl made as the officer had the girl in the head lock were the attack? Don’t you think that the officer putting her in a headlock is more of an attack and is the first real physical part of this altercation? Or do you think that the girl shaking off the restraint on her arm at the 3 second mark constitutes an attack.
I think CannyDan’s analysis is spot on.
I was a high school teacher once upon a time. Sometimes a student would be disruptive in class. Some were physically disruptive, jumping around the room, tossing erasers (yes, we had chalk boards and erasers back then) and such. Some were quietly insolent, slouching down in their chairs, putting their heads down and feigning sleep. Others were mouthy back-talkers. I never found it necessary to physically accost any of them. I regained order by being smarter than the misbehaving children, talking them through the problem, and making it clear that there would be consequences, even if the consequences weren’t immediate. The idea that briefly and strategically “knuckling under” to a child acting out is somehow going to change the power dynamic in the school and end with the most disruptive students running the place is delusional. Adults have the jobs, adults have the titles, and ultimately adults have control. And that was pretty much the usual in my school, a public school with over 3,000 students.
The only time I ever saw “the Dean” and perhaps “the football Coach” enter into a physical confrontation with students was to break up actual fistfights. No member of the Staff would even think of laying hands on a student who was still sitting in a desk, no matter what came out of that student’s mouth.
The idea that this student, or any student who is “disrespektin’ their ah-thor’-i-tie” must be summarily disciplined, and that this absolutely requires corporal punishment, is fucking stupid. As Fubaya said, acting snotty in class isn’t a law enforcement situation. Anyone who insists on treating it as such is an idiot. (Checks forum…) Yes, an idiot.
Why has no one pointed out that it wasn’t a phone, it was a homemade clock she was speaking into?
But it was meant to appear like a hoax phone.
You know, I went to school for fourteen years (plus university) and saw all kinds of kids engaged in all kinds of classroom-disrupting behavior, some similar to the sulking manner of this girl and some worse, and not once did a cop have to be summoned, much less to pull a violent takedown. The schools were nonetheless well disciplined, well run, and provided me with an excellent education.
So it’s doable, if you’re not an idiot. Perhaps the school board should hire fewer idiots. I could provide them with the names of some of my former teachers.
If the girl had been at home, sassing a parent because she was texting at the dinner table, would anyone be in favor of a cop being called in to take her down in a headlock and then dragged across the room? I sincerely hope not.
She was being a bratty teenager, not unlike the hundreds of thousands of bratty teens that have populated schools since antiquity. We’re in a bad way as a society if cop-inflicted violence is considered a reasonable response to teenaged orneriness.
Next thing you know, cops will be doing this to three year-olds who refuse to put on their jammies.
I’m sure some of these guys would be in favor of her getting a parental beating.
Having been there when I was a kid, I’m going to go with no.
And that phone had a timer function. You know what else had a timer function? The mobile telephones used in the Madrid train bombings. Connect the dots people. That brave officer may have saved the lives of dozens, if not hundreds of people, and I for one am not going to listen to you malign his good name.
Hahahaha. One thing at a time. It hasn’t been established that the phone asshole’s lawyer’s claim is true. Just because someone on the internet is willing to repeat an unsubstantiated claim, that doesn’t mean that the claim is true.
Yeah, but I find it hard to believe even these guys would support a parental beating that looked like this one. It’s only because the beating is being done by a cop (against a black “bitch”) that they are defending it.
Back in my day, troublemakers were yelled at, assigned detention and then had their parents/guardians summoned. All this resource officer nonsense did not exist, and somehow I survived.
Here’s the video:
Please tell me just when she attacked him. It shouldn't take you too long to identify this because from 6 seconds in she's being dragged along the floor.Here’s the video:
Please tell me just when she attacked him. It shouldn’t take you too long to identify this because from 6 seconds in she’s being dragged along the floor.[/QUOTE]
I just skim these threads very briefly, but since the most recent post linked to a Youtube I clicked. Boy, that Clothahump really is a moron, hunh?
I remember Zeldo excluded Christina Hendricks when he started a Who is the 2nd most voluptuous woman? thread.
In a Who is the 2nd most stupid Doper? thread, would it be necessary to name the excludee explicitly?
After viewing the three videos, I have to say this goes so far beyond stupid to being actually deranged.