Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

It would be silly to just start shooting.

I don’t know where you are getting the idea that the police would find this behavior acceptable.

You are supposed to drag the kid across your yard, and only then do you start shooting.

Law enforcement organizations in Texas may be covering up shootings by officers.[

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Or they may have just been incompetent:

While I find it nearly incomprehensible that police officers would not know about a law that directly pertains to them, I am heartened to know that some Texas lawmakers are trying to change things for the better and that some police organizations (officially) support the effort:

This whole thing was about a fucking LAWN. That’s what it was, a LAWN.

You don’t grab anyone, you don’t brandish or fire a gun, you don’t do any of that shit over a LAWN.

That cop should be fired, get arrested, and face charges.

What kind of cowardly scumbag grabs a kid, and fires a gun around kids, over a LAWN?

This isn’t law and order. True law and order would be to throw the book at this badge heavy asshole.

I donno.

Shodan thinks it’s a good idea, ask him.

There’s no such thing as an accidental discharge. There are intentional discharges and there are negligent discharges.

Purulent discharges as well.

7 Baltimore cops indicted for racketeering, theft, filing false reports, lying to investigators, filing for overtime that wasn’t worked, drug conspiracy charges and more.

Speedy justice. How many fucking years did it take to indict this guy?

The most effective way to commit crime is to join the police force.

These 7 were indicted. How many more were not indicted? How many Baltimore cops knew about them and did nothing?

BuzzFeed News reviewed 62 incidents of video footage contradicting an officer’s statement in a police report or testimony. From traffic stops to fatal force, these cases reveal how cops are incentivized to lie — and why they get away with it.

What percentage of all videotaped arrests is 62?

Regards,
Shodan

A small percentage, unless you are the one being arrested, then it’s 100%.

Or unless you are bad at math.

Regards,
Shodan

Whatever the math shows this number to be, I would say that it is too large. Or do you think it is OK for police officers to lie under oath in certain situations?

I’d like to live in a perfect world too, but I don’t know of any.

OK, so somebody picked 62 cherries. How big is the orchard? How much better do you think we can do? What will it cost, in money and effort?

I realize this is the Pit. If you’d rather have your outrage, fine with me, providing you don’t mind being made fun of.

Regards,
Shodan

How many would it take to change your mind?
75?
100?
200?
500?
1000?
10000?

How many you got?

The most recent figure I can find is for 2012, which saysthere were a bit more than 12 million arrests in the US. 62 divided by 12 million works out to 5.1667e-6 according to my calculator. That’s larger than zero, I grant you, but as a figure intended to demonstrate that cops are incentivized to lie and that they get away with it, it falls a little short, IMO.

If you have better figures, I am open to persuasion. Got any? If not, feel free to rant so I can mock you - that works too.

Regards,
Shodan

Let’s put those goalposts back, o.k.? We were talking about videotaped discrepancies compared to all videotaped arrests, no compared to all arrests, so lets do this again: How many problematic video arrests would be too many, if 62 is too low to trip your trigger? If the answer is “No number”, then have the guts to say so.

The answer is “let’s see your figures”. What is the percentage of videotaped discrepancies compared to all videotaped arrests?

If the answer is “I have no idea, and no interest in finding out if I am justified in my rantings but just want to fap off” then have the courage to say so.

Regards,
Shodan

Translation: “My smoke would be interested in taking a trip up your ass. Do you think we could arrange a meet-up?”

That’s funny - I could have sworn somebody said we were talking about videotaped discrepancies compared to all videotaped arrests. And here we are talking about your ass. Go figure.

Regards,
Shodan