Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

You know how it is with those newfangled whizbang gizmos. They sometimes just conk out. Again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. Whaddayagonnado, amirite ? Nothing to see here, just your run of the mill technical glitch. Es.

The technology is young, and should not be exposed to violence.

This needs to be investigated but with the current atty general, who knows.

I think we all know, unfortunately.

This happened three years ago, and it was investigated. Darn that Eric Holder for his cover ups!

Regards,
Shodan

Meaning what, exactly? It is not going to be investigated. Not because of any administration. There is no evidence. Because the cops control the evidence. That was the point of the post. The only way to even get an investigation is to have a bystander record the action on a cell phone.

Unarmed legal resident in critical condition after ICE agents raided Chicago home and shot him: family

ICE couldn’t legally have done a raid without a warrant. If everyone in the house was documented, whose name was on the warrant? I wish we could get more details.

AFAICT the investigation is ongoing. “Federal investigators said in December that they were probing allegations that police tampered with video evidence in the case, underscoring broader questions about whether a nationwide rollout of body cameras is fulfilling promises of greater accountability.”

Who knows what happens to that investigation under this Attorney General. I have some hope because the victim in this case was white.

I disagree with the general sentiment that we cannot trust body cams. I think that there may be some “best practices” issues. But if the argument is that we can’t trust body cams because the police are corrupt then we have an issue that defies all solutions. How would you fix a police force that destroys evidence like this? Sensitivity training?

Administrative penalties for omissions, criminal penalties for commissions, and civilian oversight.

Make the penalties for active collusion and passive collusion as severe as those for the initial act.

It’s not the body cams we cannot trust.

One-legged woman, framed by police and cleared of slaying can sue Kentucky trooper

It was possible to determine and it was determined. They were not a match.

How did he solve it so quickly? He framed a poor woman.

Bolding mine.

The Louisville Metro Police detective was demoted to night shift patrol for meddling in a State Police investigation. He sued the State under whistleblower statute and got 450K.

And what was the lying sack of shit’s punishment?

One of the two officers arrested, Derrick Stafford, has been convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 40 years in prison.

Norris Greenhouse, Jr. still faces a murder trial later this year.

So, if white officers had shot them, or if the victims had been black, the DA would be doing nothing.

How many of you saw last night’s 60 Minutes Story on the Shelby/Crutcher shooting and were left with the impression that Crutcher had his hands up when shot? That seemed to be the spin of the story. I saw no evidence of that. In fact, the video shows his hands dropping towards the door handle or window before he goes down but the reporter never mentioned that. In a highly unusual move, the officer agreed to be interviewed before her trial. I take this as an effort to counter the media-driven theory that this was a case of racially influenced excessive force. How many times did stories on this case start with “Unarmed Man Had Hands Up Before being Shot by Police Officer”? While technically correct, it would be just as accurate (and relevant) to say “Man Had Breakfast Before Being Shot by Police Officer”. How about mentioning where his hands were WHEN he was shot? His sister said that he was just doing what their parents said to do when confronted by police - going to put his hands on the car. Except that he walked by the back of the SUV and the side of the SUV and the police car thereby bypassing opportunities to do what his parents allegedly taught him to do. And they didn’t teach him to do what the cops says, especially when he/she is pointing a gun at you? I think the officer handled herself very well during the interview and will make an excellent witness should she choose to testify. I predict that she will be acquitted and rightly so.

The Tampa Bay Times has an excellent piece of investigative reporting where they compiled a list of every shooting in the state of Florida from 2009 - 2014 and goes through and systematically dissects the data in an attempt to answer the question of why cops shoot.

Fantastic article.

We need to do more.

[

](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNITED_PASSENGER_REMOVED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-04-10-11-08-04)So the airline made an error and then paying customers were forced to alter their plans, one of them enduring physical violence, which was filmed and published on Facebook for the world to see. That’s public relations!

Nice to know that in the US, the cops are still there to support a company’s needs, eh?

I considered starting a new thread for this, but then I figured it’s really just another example of the type of incident that this thread was created for so here it is.

There already is a threadfor this and you might be shocked, as I was, at the defenders of the airline therein.

MPSIMS thread. Might eventually get moved to the PIT anyway.