Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

If I were to say “Mr. and Mrs. Brainsample fought for several hours about the family’s finances”, would I be in the wrong if they had never actually taken a swing at each other?

Then I’ll present it again. He was underage. He was drunk and/or verbally belligerent, he refused to vacate the premises on his own, and he was taken into custody without the use of weapons or disproportionate force, and suffered only minor superficial abrasions as can be seen in his mugshot.

Look, Mr “Mike is not your real name, Michael” is pulling the “I was speaking colloquially” defense…

Are you a cop?

You said he fought with the people who were trying to keep him out. That’s a false assertion, unless you specifically note that he was not physically violent in any way.

This is a different argument than the one you made before. It might be reasonable (and we don’t know yet if the force was “disproportionate”). I think further investigation is warranted, as do the local authorities, apparently, and I look forward to seeing what the investigators find.

Does your mother charge, or does she fuck hobos for free?

What the hell kind of insulting question is that to ask me? “Are you a cop?” Might as well ask “Are you a Nazi?”, “Do you fuck sheep?” or “Are you a furry?”

So you consider the police - all police - morally equivalent to Nazis.

That’s good to know.

On average, you and MrDibble consider cops to be patron saints of sanctity.

Bullshit. Cops, unlike the other things you mentioned, are necessary to the functioning of society. Although I’ll remember your insults to furries next time you accuse someone else of prejudice… Someone’s sexual preferences are not fair game for that, any more than skin colour is.

Why you gotta hate on the furries?

The truth, as usual, is somewhere in the middle.

Nazy saints of sanctity.

No, I find being mistaken for one as odious.

I don’t consider Nazis, bestialists and furries to be equally reprehensible. But I don’t want to be mistaken for any of them

So no society existed before the invention of police. Good to know.

I give a fuck what your racist ass finds to play gotcha-ya with…

…And I didn’t see you defending sheep fuckers. Is there a dog costume hanging next to the white hood in someone’s closet, I wonder?

I don’t gotta.

I choose to.

Before we had police, we had the sheriff and his posse. If mob justice is what you’d prefer

Not without someone to enforce the rules, no. It’s one of the main purposes of society, along with protecting the group from outsiders that would cause harm.

What if there is, bigot?

This is exactly what pisses me off about the whole “anti-cop” attitude. They completely ignore that fact that things are far better than they used to be, and continue to get better all the time, in favour of tossing around nonsensical comparisons to Nazis.

So you’re fine with all the reasonable criticism and questioning of the police (which doesn’t constitute an “anti-cop” attitude) that doesn’t compare them to Nazis?

No, I prefer community-based security bodies and the rule of law. Not rule by the best-armed gang of thugs with the spiffiest uniforms.

It’s perfectly possible to have enforcement of the law without a professional police force.

Ha! Talk about the pot calling the kettle … well, you know.

Name one place in the world where “enforcement of the law without a professional police force” is happening in this day and age.

Where I live, things got better than they used to be when the cops were disempowered. Things “used to be” an actual police state. So don’t come telling me how much I “need” the police - I need the police like I need a hole in my head (which, incidentally, is what the police gave one of my high school classmates)

Armed, uniformed thugs enforcing a racial-biased regime of oppression on a minority population…yeah, nothing Nazi about that…