So you are in agreement with the police that he must have put the gun back into his pocket after he was shot in the head?
See, there you are, making fun of the guy who is dead and cannot defend himself. Further compounded by your little dig there that $0.04 is “adequate” compensation.
But, as you just said, you don’t think that it is a tragedy, you are free to laugh
No, it just makes me an observer of your behavior. As long as you are trying to make the observer of shitty behavior out to be the bad one, care to comment on Shodan’s comment in #13712, and explain how that is not findinging amusement at the expense of those grieving over a dead loved one?
You’re amazingly stupid if you can’t see the huge middle finger in this “compensation”. You seriously think that saying “he was 99% responsible so no compensation is awarded at all” is worse than “this guy’s life would’ve been worth four dollars if he’d known his place, but as he didn’t it’s only four cents”. THAT is the troubling part here. And notice how those four dollars were before reducing 99% for his actions.
But yes, I see, in your mind four dollars is huge overprice for a black person. That four cents is more reasonable, after all he’s dead so he can’t pick any cotton.
No, you moron. People should be held accountable for their actions. No-one here is denying that, except you if those people are cops.
I believe that two juries who, having seen all the evidence, found there was no criminal case to answer and only 1% responsibility to be a more reliable source to base my opinion on than some random idiot on the internet.
I’m not making fun of him, just as I’m not making fun of you when I call you an idiot. I’m entirelt serious. Not sure where you get the idea that referring to the compensation as adequate is a “dig”, it’s an observation.
Of course it’s a tragedy. Who has responsibility for the death doesn’t change that - in fact, it could be argues that it’s a worse tragedy for the family that it was his fault.
I am, of course, free to laugh no matter what. I choose not to, as it’s not funny.
I am not Shodan, nor will I speak for him. I would guess from his post that he’s finding amusement in the idea that anyone thinks that this jury has found that the stated sum is the value of a man’s life, as that’s a patently absurd reading of the situation. Laughing at the absurd is a normal reaction, even when doing so could be considered tasteless.
And yet you object to the jury stating exactly, in monetary terms, what that level of accountability is, and would prefer it to be zero. And then, presumably with a straight face, say I am the one who wants cops to be let off… That makes, quite literally, no sense.
And as I said in my last post, the $4 is not intended to be the value of anyone’s life. It’s a token amount to represent a tiny amount of damage. That it may upset the family is irrelevant, and not something I’d expect a court to take into account.
You must surely be aware of other cases where $1 of symbolic damages is awarded, or people taking token payments of that amount? It’s not an unusual thing. The only thing that slightly bothers me is the reduction from a dollar to a cent, as I was under the impression that it was already a dollar because of minimal responsibility. I’d support paying them the full amount.
I think you are being a little unfair to Steophan. Before I put him back on the greyling list, I didn’t notice any particular racism in his unwavering support for police shooting people. Black folks do tend to get shot more (which is racist) but that isn’t his fault. I think Steophan is just as supportive of white men being shot as a black ones.
I believe that, but what I meant is that you express nearly unwavering support for the police, whatever their actions. You don’t support what appear to most people to be abuses of police power only when they affect minorities - you also support white people being abused by the police.
I don’t think he’s driven by racism, but by constant irrational terror. Other than racism, I can’t imagine what aside from constant terror of young people could drive him to praise a man, Michael Dunn, who shot at fleeing children, as the type of man normal people would want to live near them, and as a man who “stands up to bullies”.
I don’t support abuse, I simply don’t sign up to conspiracy theories that claim there’s abuse everywhere even when a thorough investigation fails to find it. Just as I refuse to believe random internet commentators over experts on vaccinations or global warming, I refuse to believe someone who has neither knowledge of law nor of the particular events involved when they claim that a cop has done something wrong.
You can clearly imagine what it is, as I’ve repeatedly told you. Standing up to bullies, and defending yourself and others against aggressors is admirable behaviour. That he later committed attempted murder doesn’t affect any judgement of his previous actions.
It’s not your fault. It’s not reasonable to view the actions of a convicted murderer who shot at fleeing (and unarmed) children as “standing up to bullies” and “defending yourself and others against aggressors”, but I understand that this is just a result of the extreme irrational terror of young people that you feel. It’s not your fault. Peace and love, as always.
I’m not claiming that shooting at fleeing young people is either of those things, though. As you well know, because I said as much in the post you quoted. And you wonder why I think you’re a liar?
It’s okay. I understand you think his actions, which resulted in a murder conviction and a dead unarmed child, as standing up to bullies, and the actions of someone you think normal people want near them.
This is the terror talking. It’s a fiction. It’s not normal to admire actions that result in a dead unarmed child and a murder conviction. But it’s not your fault. Fight against it, for your own good.
It’s supposed to be a fact, so neutral - neither good nor bad. It doesn’t surprise me that you can ascribe a moral value to a fact, though, as that’s the biggest problem so many people have in this thread.
The police taser a handcuffed, non-resisting citizen of the United States to teach him some manners. I am sure Steophan thinks everything is A-OK with what happened in this interaction.
He thinks kicking a prone, handcuffed guy in the head is a “petty crime” that shouldn’t be reported. He won’t even bat an eye at this. There is something wrong with him.