What factor sunscreen? Also, where is his badge? I don’t want you springing a surprise “AHA! He wasn’t really a cop!” on me.
Generic SPF 18 sunscreen, and the badge is hanging off his left pierced nipple.
edited to add: And please don’t ask how his partner plans on holding the coffee, the napkins and the donuts.
Lotion or spray on?
Lotion-the spray-on was a $1.37 more an ounce.
We should be hiring the best and the brightest. Why are we putting the safety of our communities in the hands of people who are poorly equipped for the job.
I don’t see it as all that expensive, and I am willing to pay the taxes to pay for it. As far as detrimental, what are you worried about happening if our police force is well screened, trained, and equipped?
As for requiring some sort of “military style discipline”, I don’t think we need to go nearly that far. For instance, when I hire someone to work with dogs, I screen them a bit to make sure that they are comfortable with dogs. I wouldn’t want to hire someone afraid of dogs. I train them that if a dog misbehaves, you don’t punch it. There are ways of controlling a dog that do not involve harming them, even when you are angry with them. And this is important, dogs do bite from time to time, and while the natural reaction to something biting you is to hurt it right back, somehow, I’ve managed to get a bunch of people that I hired off of craigslist and indeed, and who I am paying not all that high a wage, to not strike a dog who has bitten them.
For some reason, you don’t think that we can do as well or better with cops.
It happens in many workplaces. It happens in mine, it happens in manson1972’s. If it doesn’t happen in yours, you may want to consider how much of it is your attitude that people shouldn’t be reported for breaking laws or policies as to why it doesn’t.
The idea that you have that someone reporting violations of the law or of someone’s civil rights is looked upon as less trustworthy than someone who is breaking the law or violating someone’s civil rights is backwards from any business that is not run and staffed by stupid, selfish, violent people.
If you are covering for your co-workers in this, you are part of the problem. Don’t brag that your actions exacerbate the problem, change your actions to help to fix it.
You contradict yourself. You first say that it is illegal and punished when a cop is twitchy and scared, but then you say that it is fine if they are twitchy and scared and perceives a threat to them.
Hey, where did MikeF go? I thought he wanted to know the details when it came to specific situations?
Lotion? LOTION??? Then absolutely not, he cannot punch a suspect in the face. What kind of dystopian nightmare do you think we are living in??
I should have mentioned trolling as another contributing factor.
Regards,
Shodan
Thank you.
That whole sequence totally fucking rocked!
Thanks to Czarcasm for playing along!
I’m just great at multi-tasking. I can do quickwit and halfwit at the same time.
There are only so many “best and brightest” to go round, and a job that mostly requires identifying and restraining not particularly bright criminals, stopping bad drivers, and breaking down doors does not require them. Yes, we need a few percent of top people both in charge and as detectives, but not a whole load of people who will get bored and frustrated at the boring, not particularly challenging work that is routine policing. Let the best and brightest be doctors, teachers, politicians, business leaders, scientists, or any other job that requires a great deal of intelligence and independent thought.
When you get dogs with guns, or high on meth or whatever, that will be relevant. Cops are already screened to the level you claim to want - but being almost entirely good enough isn’t actually good enough. You want perfection.
Most workplaces wouldn’t function at all if they followed all the procedures to the letter. It just doesn’t happen, and I don’t believe that you don’t know that. But then, I’ve yet to see a successful business not run by selfish people, selfless people wouldn’t do that. People are inherently, if not entirely selfish, then empathetic only to a relatively small group. Once again, you are ignoring human nature, rather than being prepared to work with it to achieve your aims.
No, I don’t. If they kill someone because they are twitchy and scared, it’s a crime. If they kill someone because they percieve a threat from them, and that perception is reasonable, then it’s fine. Just as it would be for anyone else.
Claiming that, for example, someone you know or reasonably believe to be armed is reaching for their weapon is a threat.
Of course it’s fucking allowed for anyone, not just a cop, to punch someone who’s threatening them with a gun or a knife. What is wrong with you? Would you let yourself be shot or stabbed rather than defend yourself?
You are obviously trolling here, there’s no way you actually believe that. No-one does.
Well, you can do half-right.
How sad it must be to go through life thinking that it is impossible for anyone to have beliefs that differ from yours.
I don’t believe that anyone thinks it’s wrong to punch someone who’s about to shoot them. I could understand, just about, someone saying they wouldn’t kill to save their own life, but saying it’s wrong to use any force at all? No.
Note that he didn’t say he’d made a personal choice to avoid any use of force, for religious reasons or whatever, he said outright it was wrong. The only reasonable thing to think of that is that he’s trolling.
ETA I know many people have different beliefs to me. One of the reasons I read this forum is to expose myself to those different beliefs, and challenge my own. It’s extremely rare I’ll outright say I don’t believe what someone claims are their beliefs.
It’s, mostly, wrong 'cause the worse thing to bring to a gun fight isn’t a knife is your fists.
CMC fnord!
That’s strange. I don’t remember saying that it is wrong to use any force at all. Can you please be so kind to point out the post where I said that cops are wrong to use any force at all? Thanks!
There are two recent videos that have been posted that show cops punching someone who is not threatening them with a gun or a knife. And videos of cops kicking people who weren’t threatening them with a gun or a knife. And videos of cops straight up shooting people who weren’t threatening them with a gun or a knife. Edited to add: And in these videos, there are other cops who apparently see no problem with it.
I, for one, would like things to change BEFORE somebody gets killed and not afterward saying “Well, the cop got put on paid administrative leave, what’s the problem?”