Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

That doesn’t seem that controversial. The guy had a clearly recognized gun in his hand.

Yes, but, presumably, he was in uniform.

:wink:
CMC fnord!

Another thug with a badge and gun.

Sandra Bland’s family demands answers over new video of her arrest

I don’t think the video tells us anything new. The cops claim she hung herself in her cell…after being arrested at a traffic stop. :rolleyes::rolleyes::confused:

What gets me NOW is the sniveling gutless prosecutor.

You ever hear the phrase ‘you can indict a ham sandwich’? Well, you can. But you have to want to.
And they drop perjury charges in exchange for him agreeing to not work as a cop again. Like that should be on the table. “We won’t charge the babysitter for cooking and eating the child, but she has to agree to not work as a babysitter again.”

Fucking coward.

Why does a Kentucky Sheriff still have his job after second DUI arrest?

I give props for there actually being two arrests. Cannot help but wonder how many times he was stopped and NOT arrested because he was a cop.

But it should be a simple rule. If you cannot obey the law, then you cannot enforce the law.

Sheriff is typically an elected position. Not sure whether the county government has the ability to remove him. Perhaps they can hold a special election, in which he would not be eligible to run. The result could be worse, though, as special elections are notorious for low turnout. (It looks like Breckinridge County has a population around 20K).

There is often a removal process:

Obviously, this will vary from County to County. I could not find anything for Breckinridge County, KY

Would 2 DUIs count as habitual intoxication?

Probably not.

But:
Conviction of a felony while in office
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Refusal or neglect to perform official duties

Was either of the DUI’s a felony conviction? And could failure to obey the law be considered neglect to perform official duties?

Breckinridge County Sheriff Todd Pate indicted by grand jury

Hopefully, he’ll be out of a job soon.

ETA: The tampering with physical evidence seems to be a Class D felony in Kentucky.

Oh, and this is fun.

Sheriff charged with DUI stopped by local officer in the hour before his crash

http://https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/us/woman-gives-birth-jail-cell.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR1UtA8dXcp7IYoxIXqEiCPm-1wiUtUe1YeB7dQj_gRglKggniCRR1OuiaE

not only that, but ‘The baby is currently living with a family member, and Ms. Jackson hopes to reunite with her, Mr. Weekes said. Ms. Jackson is scheduled to be arraigned on May 8, when Mr. Weekes said he would request that she be released from jail.’

They took the baby off her and STILL kept her in jail

I don’t see the controversy over her still being in jail? There are lots of people with children in jail. Now, I don’t think she should have given birth there, but assuming she was arrested/held for good cause, putting her butt back in jail once she was medically cleared seems justifiable.

From the linked article:

Yeah, right. The sheriff had a blood alcohol level of what .15 and somehow the police officer who personally knew him just missed that.

Heavy drinkers (as one might infer based on 2 DUIs) tend to develop a tolerance (up to the point when the liver explodes). Numbers that seem high for a normal person may not be high for a lush. He very well could have been not showing observable signs of inebriation.

She didn’t just give birth in jail; she gave birth by herself, in the cell, over 5 hours after jail employees knew she was in labor. The staff didn’t even call a doctor until four hours after she started banging on her cell door calling for help, and when they did call, the doctor didn’t get there for almost another two hours, by which time she was holding the baby in her arms. This is a woman with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

And, as I predicted when I first saw the link to the story, she was being held on a drug possession charge. It’s not completely clear, but from the way her case is described in the New York Times story, it seems like she is being held in jail while awaiting trial. If that’s true, the most likely scenario is that this woman, who probably presents no public threat and little or no risk of flight, is being held in jail on a possession charge because she can’t afford the bail or bond that would be necessary to secure her release pending her court date.

The bail/bond system in the United States is, in a large number of cases, little more than a penalty for being poor. In too many jurisdictions, poor people spend weeks or months in jail without having been convicted of anything, while people with money go home for the same or even worse crimes because they can afford the bond.

And here’s a story about the private healthcare company charged with administering health care in the Broward County jails.

Fuck no. The arresting officer had no problem identifying the signs of intoxication. Also, from the article

You cannot believe for a second that had the driver been anyone but a LEO that the police officer wouldn’t have been suspicious of drunk driving.

DesertWife was a med-tech, generally the people who draw the blood sample on a DIU.* One of the things they do when swapping war stories is mention their record draw. Hers was .43 and she mentioned one of her professors’ was .58 I blinked at her when she said that. “Isn’t that past the LD50 point?”

“Yup; you have to work at it. He wasn’t even comatose.”

*It is considered a pain in the ass because of the whole chain of evidence thing. That’s why phlebs don’t do it, lacking the whole college edumacation.

Baytown, Texas:

I imagine it is more laziness than cowardice. If the trooper was convicted of perjury, every case he had been involved in would be subject to review, and handling it this way the prosecutor doesn’t have to spend any time seeing if this trooper fucked anyone else over.