Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

The problem with conspiracy theories is, you need evidence to give 'em legs.

The problem with conspiracy theories is that you do not need evidence to give them legs.

Former Georgia police chief, family indicted in citation extortion scheme

Article states they were doing it 8 years.

I’m sure they were the only bad apples, and that absolutely nobody else in the Police Department knew about it.

A white Fort Worth officer fatally shot a black woman inside her home early Saturday morning after police were called to the house to do a welfare check.

https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article236067328.html?__twitter_impression=true

So, looking out of your window is now a threat to police.

People really need to quit calling out hits, I mean welfare checks, on other people. Don’t call the cops ever, for anything, unless you absolutely have to.

I was just getting ready to post the welfare check murder of a person in their own house.

Video here, including body cam footage.

This shooting was a lot of bullshit. The officer was fucking prowling outside with a flashlight, saw someone in a window and shot them. There was no time for the person inside to react to the officer’s “command” if it could even be heard throughout the walls and window.

The mention of the gun found inside is likewise bullshit; it’s meant to smear the dead woman is all.

The second amendment only applies to white people.

If you’re a black person, possessing a gun in your own home makes you deserving of the death penalty.

I predict that nothing is going to happen to this police officer.

I just watched that video and it sickens me to think that it can happen.

If I saw someone prowling outside multiple sides of my house with a flashlight at night, I’d be worried and might arm myself too.

Remember when Dick Tench of Greenville, SC was shot by a cop in similar circumstances?

The short clip with the victim’s sister was heartbreaking.

Do we even know at this point if she was armed, or just at the window? Not that it should make a lick of difference, as she was in her own fucking house while unknown people were prowling around it, but I haven’t seen a definitive answer to that yet.

I know from personal experience that by and large, Fort Worth cops, and Texas cops in general are Not Worth A Flying Fuck. They never were.

This is so sad. I suppose the police officer will be “exonerated.”

No, we do not. IMO it is significant that the police said “a gun was found in the home” not “a gun was found near the deceased”; they are trying to poison the well.

You’re right, it doesn’t matter. Even if she was standing there with her 45 ACP model 1911 in condition 0, the cop should not shoot her. In her own house. Through the window. And of course she wasn’t.

I can’t see how the killing of Atatiana Jefferson is anything other than an appalling, unjust, and criminal act. OK, so it was the wee hours of the morning, and the door was open. (It looks like a screen door was closed, but the main door was open.) So, maybe, the cops swinging by to make sure everything is OK is warranted–the next door neighbor (who is now racked with guilt) did apparently think so.

But what the fuck is all this sneaking around, shining flashlights and peering through windows, then just shooting the first person you see? How about, I dunno, knocking on the door: KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK “Fort Worth Police Department!..Oh, hello, ma’am, we’re just responding to a call from your neighbor who noticed the lights are on and your door is open and was a little concerned. Everything OK here? Just playing video games with your nephew? Sounds like fun! Sorry if we disturbed you, have a nice night.”

As several people have already pointed out, even if the poor woman was actually armed at the time she was shot, the cops didn’t identify themselves, didn’t (apparently) pull up with flashing blue lights–just, two dudes fucking skulking around outside a house in the wee hours of the morning, shining their flashlights and peering through the windows of a home containing a twenty-something woman and her eight-year-old nephew. In Texas! She damned well would have been perfectly within her rights to be armed in response to that sort of nonsense (and, again, there’s no real evidence that she actually was holding any sort of weapon when she was just senselessly killed).

I can’t see any way how the fucking shooter shouldn’t go to prison.

Even if she had been standing in her home, weapon in hand, she would have been within her rights. Texas has a limited castle doctrine.*

*Not valid if you’re colored.