He gets much better as it goes and so do the rest of them. I suppose you could say if you want character development they need to start somewhere.
You can if you want watch the pilot, then the final ep of the second season, and go from there…OR watch the pilot, the last ep of season two, the two first eps of season three and skip to the last of season three and go from there.
O’Brien went from this no-one background character to a fairly fleshed out ‘Master Chief’ grizzled war veteran who has seen it all and lived through it. I don’t know that he’s supposed to win any popularity contests, but he’s a solid character pertinent to the situation.
Oh, that’s the ep I was thinking about. In another ongoing Trek thread someone was criticizing New Kirk for lying on his report about saving Spock from a volcano and letting the natives see a spaceship. He should lose his command!
Yeah, watch In The Pale Moonlight.
“Computer, delete that entire log.”
You probably forgot Worf because he doesn’t even show up until season four.
Your post sucks. The only Captain better than Sisko is Kirk (original recipe). And even then it’s pretty close at times.
Pale Moonlight is by far one of Trek’s best episodes. Demonstrating what desperate cultures, facing insurmountable odds, will do to ensure their survival.
All the idealism of Trek is stripped away to show what surviving total war requires.
That aspect of his character was one of the first things explained about him, right back in the episode where they introduced the Cardassians, The Wounded. The fact that he’d been in brutal warfare very distant from the clean TNG environment was a major plot point, even to the level of suggesting he was still affected by trauma from what he saw and did as a soldier.
And O’Brian was a great character in DS9 precisely becuse he was in many respects an everyman who nonetheless shows determination, adaptability, and raw will to survive in the face of insane aliens, science gone wrong, and various other sci-fi plots. There really was no better choice than O’Brian in Empok Nor, for instance, precisely because he is the man with the capacity to survive, but still has the vulnerability of a human being.
DS9 had Ferengi; Enterprise had Jolene Blalock in snug apparel. I know which of those two I would rather look at. (The Ferengi were like the shoddiest creation of the whole canon – worse even than the Suliban.)
DS9 went a long way towards making the Ferengi into a fleshed out race instead of the troll like 2 dimensional characters that Gene envisioned.
TOS is the best Trek.
DS9 was good, but I liked it more when it was called Babylon 5
Enterprise had Phlox, DS9 had Leeta in snug apparel. (How YOU doin’?) Plus it had Major [del]Chest[/del] Kira in snug apparel. (I don’t remember this episode…)
Winner: DS9
And it *still *isn’t the best Trek!
My favorite scenes in DS9 were Garak and Bashir eating lunch together. Bashir is pure as the driven snow, hopes to be able to get incriminating info on Garak, and Garak sees right through him from the very beginning. Garak however, has no problem with hinting at the atrocities he’s committed and letting Bashir draw his own conclusions without actually admitting anything. Bashir still can’t believe Garak’s stories and thinks he’s pulling his leg. Garak knows how to confound interrogators, having been one himself, so baiting and misdirecting Bashir is amusement for him. Furthermore, he doesn’t arrange for Bashir to meet an unfortunate accident for knowing incriminating things about Garak because he considers him his only friend.
Garak: Doctor, I don’t understand your skepticism. Everything I’ve told you has been the absolute truth.
Bashir: Even the lies?
Garak: Especially the lies.
The second one is from our man bashir. The James bond episode.
I think I remember that one. Though, I have a fondness for this particular exchange:
Quark: I want you to try something for me. Take a sip of this.
Garak: What is it?
Quark: A human drink. It’s called root beer.
Garak: I don’t know.
{ Garak scowls/snears }
Quark: Come on. Aren’t you just a little bit curious?
{ Garak sighs, and cautiously drinks… }
Quark: What do you think?
Garak: It’s vile.
Quark: I know. It’s so bubbly and cloying and happy.
{ Garak smiles slowly as Quark speaks }
Garak: Just like the Federation.
Quark: But you know what’s really frightening? If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it.
Garak: It’s insidious.
Quark: Just like the Federation.
You forgot Richard Matheson and George Clayton Johnson.
I’ve read Ellison’s original script. I know it is heresy, but as a Star Trek script what got broadcast was much better.
Ellison’s original COTEOF script is a really cool script, but it’s just not a Star Trek episode.
DS9 is still the best Trek. TOS loses for producing Spock’s Brain alone.
I’ve started watching from season 3. Not great as yet, about 5 episodes in. It’s sort of interesting to see how poor the acting was (particularly Terry Farrell). No one ever reacts in surprise, when someone comes up from behind them. They just turn and start talking. There’s a sort of slowness to the dialogue like everyone’s waiting for a small beat between the previous person’s dialogue and their own. Maybe that’s a technical thing for the editors, but it really diminishes the sense that they’re really talking with one another. It comes across like they’re all just reciting their lines, alone, even when multiple people are on screen at the same time and its an extended take with multiple back and forths.
Though, I expect that I’ll reacclimate to the production quality as it keeps going.
At the moment, the standout thing for me is the opening theme song. It really does set you up for the expectation that the characters are going to go out and do amazing, benevolent things for the universe, even without the voice over about exploring space (since DS9 is a space station). One can only hope that the new Trek TV series will be able to pick this up - both the music and the theme - since it’s been severely lacking in the new movies.