Who said routinely? If it’s even used as a small amount of times, and we can alter our training to reduce some of those, how is that not worthwhile? Every post you make brings a new strawman.
Imagine if there were better techniques for police to approach armed suspects to protect them, but with no downside as far as making the situation more dangerous. Wouldn’t you want their training to reflect that, even if shootouts between police and armed suspects only account for a tiny fraction of police incidents?
Training is routinely refined by real world experience in incidents with poor outcome to attempt to rectify those situations. The idea that this makes this situations common, or that all police are culpable, or whatever you’re coming up with, is completely made up by you.
Whats wrong with letting Internal Affairs handle it? There’s procedures in place to investigate claims of excessive force. Determine if they are valid and then discipline or fire the officers involved.
Sure, on a broader level new procedures and regulations can be implemented within the NYPD. Change their approach to Stop and Frisk and other address other concerns. Regulations change within any organization.
de Blasio didn’t have to openly state retraining of the entire force is needed.
NOBODY has any faith or confidence in any police department’s Internal Affairs any more. These sort of complaints need to be investigated by an independent outside agency.
At the very large multinational company I work for every single person is required to be retrained on sexual harassment every year. Every freaking year without exception even though actual cases of sexual harassment are exceedingly rare.
Do you know why actual cases of sexual harassment are exceedingly rare? Because every single person is retrained on sexual harassment every freaking year without exception.
The training is to prevent the incidents, not a reactionary measure to incidents that have already occurred.
That sounds reasonable. I had the impression de Blasio’s call for retraining was punitive. If its not then I was mistaken.
Clearly better statistics needs to be kept on excessive force and police shootings throughout the country. First to determine the extant of the problem and identify the hot spots. Why are the numbers higher in this city.
Right now people are reacting to a few highly publicized cases. No one knows how common these incidents are.
Yeah, I do remember one time we were required to do it again in June after we had just done it in February because supposedly there was an incident.
The trainer started off the class in a very irritated tone of voice saying something along the lines of “I would have thought you guys would know this stuff by now, but APPARENTLY it didn’t sink in last time, SO…”
Yep, similar circumstances, although it actually was a completely different flavor of training that someone had cooked up for us last-minute. I found it moderately useful.
Yet another bizarre view from ace’s take on the world. It’s a widespread belief among African Americans in New York that the police are to be feared and not respected. The mayor makes a rather mild statement trying to bridge that divide, and he goes nuts.
How about when the Secret Service let someone run into the White House? Did he think that nobody should say anything, because the feelings of the agents could be hurt! And after all, they risk their lives too!
Or imagine back when the Supreme Court struck down racial discrimination laws. I could imagine him criticizing the Supreme Court for doing something that would rock the boat with a lot of important southern states.
His fear of principled conflict is just out of hand. Wasn’t he the poster who also thought the police in the south had to protect MLK’s marches because he had his permits in order? And he was just totally surprised that the cops beat up and arrested those peaceful marches time and time again?
This is a warning for you. Don’t make posts like this. In fact, since it breaks more than one rule and is so brash, if you make another one like it ever again, your posting privileges may be taken away immediately (either temporary or permanently, depending on staff discussion).
Its incredible this guy traveled all the way from Baltimore to Brooklyn just to ambush and kill two officers. No information why this guy shot his gf earlier today. She’s had surgery and is expected to survive.
Well, here in Philadelphia we once had the opposite. We had a Mayor, one Frank Rizzo who was the former Police Chief. He was very much in support of the police, no matter what they did. Up to and including the cover up of incidents of police brutality.
The result? It took decades for the Philadelphia police department to re-earn any trust the in the community.
No thank you. I’d rather have a Mayor who takes steps to solve problems. Not shuffle blame, not cover it up, not utterly condemn the departments. Solve them.
The ‘thrown under the bus’ accusation was made more in response to remarks DeBlasio made about how he and his wife lectured their son about how he needs to be careful when dealing with cops than whatever’s in that letter.