Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

Interesting…I’ve been ordering things online here in New England since the late 1990s, and have never run into that that I can recall.

(I do sometimes find that my zip code has been truncated in online databases, though, like on a membership roster.)

37,470,751 total cases
1,077,507 dead
28,115,866 recovered

In the US:

7,945,505 total cases
219,282 dead
5,089,842 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

Oof. This is…less than optimal.

The latest news in Arizona is that deaths are 22% higher this year than the same time last year.

37,748,234 total cases
1,081,443 dead
28,350,523 recovered

In the US:

7,991,998 total cases
219,695 dead
5,128,162 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

South Korea:

Looking at the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Site, I find the distressing news that as of yesterday, Oct 11, several states have had their highest number of reported cases ever, overtopping previous peaks. These states are:

North Dakota
South Dakota
Montana
Wyoming
Wisconsin
Illinois
Indiana
Nebraska
Colorado
Utah
Idaho (actually on Oct 9 – it’s hone down slightly)
Alaska
Missouri
Tennessee
Oklahoma
Kentucky (like Idaho, a couple of days ago)
West Virginia
North Carolina
New Hampshire

I have to admit, that last one surprised me – New Hampshire had been doing very well, and it’s not next to any other states where this new peak has been reached. But it’s had a big tourist influx lately.

Besides, even in states where there’s not a new record high in reported cases, it’s going up. This includes the New England and Mid Atlantic States that had been keeping a lid on it for so long – Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhose Island, New York, and New Jersey are showing slow but undeniable rises in cases, as are most other states further west.

And this comes when TRump has been claiming that it’s going away

All through this NH has had problems containing outbreaks in long term care facilities, and about 1/3rd of the new peak day cases are from yet another of these long term care facility outbreaks. Lots of pediatric cases over the last week too (77), now accounting for over 15% of new cases.

Illinois the last handful of days is reporting more cases per day now than we ever were in April or May. Deaths, however have been holding steady at 20-30 per day since the beginning of July. I can’t help but think that we’ve already killed off the most vulnerable of us, as the deaths per day in the spring and summer were much higher. Way to go, fellow citizens who would like to pretend this virus is no threat.

Maybe this, but IMHO more likely that doctors are figuring out better ways to treat it, e.g., turning people on their stomachs to ease breathing rather than automatically putting them on ventilators.

But just look at the long range and/or permanent damage we are doing to the “survivors”.

As a census worker, I did not appreciate the enormous cloud hanging over my head as I tried(and oft times failed) to convince people the information they gave me would be kept private for governmental prying eyes.

How is it we can ‘look at’ that?

Hasn’t this been a perpetual problem with the census since forever? Do you think it’s worse this time around?

Definitely more tense than other years.

38,043,916 total cases
1,085,375 dead
28,606,252 recovered

In the US:

8,037,789 total cases
220,011 dead
5,184,615 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

The first documented US case of someone becoming infected more than once, the second time was worse:

“…suffered two bouts of Covid-19 infection, one confirmed through testing in mid-April and the second in early June. Symptoms of the second case started in late May, a month after the patient reported his initial symptoms as having resolved.
The two strains of virus were genetically distinct, signaling that it is unlikely that the man simply remained unknowingly infected with the virus in one, longer bout, the authors wrote. The paper notes that the patient’s second case of Covid-19 was more severe than his first, requiring supplemental oxygen and admission to a hospital after he suffered from shortness of breath.”

At this very instant on BBC Radio 2 the phone in topic is asking 'Have you had or do you believe you have been infected with Covid more than once"

So far there have been a couple who have been verified absolutely due to genetic strain identification of the virus, but most so far have shown the symptoms twice with about an even chance of the second bout being worse or just very mild indeed.

The reason there is such uncertainty is that virus strain testing requires a blood sample for historic infection to identify previous versions of the virus and this is not being done, and for those who caught it earlier there was both a lack of testing and of accurate tests without major risk of false positives - those people who had symptoms simply isolated for the recommended period.

It is sounding more and more like there is an identified risk of second infection, not only that but the expert on the radio panel stated that loss of smell often has different effects on the second time around - with sense of smell being distorted rather than lost.
To me this suggests that there has been an ongoing number of second infections that has not been widely reported but is reasonably well known in the medical world - which begs the question why it hasn’t been given sufficient publicity before.

My best friend’s aunt, around 80 years old, had covid in the spring and had mild symptoms. She got it again last month and died after a week or so. I think it’s happening a lot more than we hear about.