Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

CBS article: Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine distribution will be a “logistical nightmare”

Key points:

• The deep-freeze “suitcases” containing specially made dry ice and 1,000-5,000 doses can only be opened twice a day for no more than 3 minutes at a time.

• The suitcases stay cold for 10 days, starting from the moment they’re sealed. (Pfizer’s facilities are in Kalamazoo, MI and Pleasant Prairie, WI.

• It’ll take up to 4 days for transport, leaving 6 days to administer 5,000 doses before they go bad–that’s 833 vaccinations per day. (Gov. pays for syringes, but so far, not staff.)

•Suitcases can be refilled with the specially formulated dry ice only, costing a few hundred $$. This would extend the life 5 days.

•Those ultra-cold freezers cost $20,000 EACH, and there’s currently a six-week waiting list. Hospitals don’t know yet if they’ll be designated distribution points, so can’t plan.

•Struggling rural hospitals can’t afford the freezers and staff power required.

• Research facilities DO have those freezers, but they’d have to be repurposed for vaccine storage and distribution to satisfy public health regs.

•AND a BIG factor is that Pfizer’s vaccine requires 2 doses 21 days apart. So in 21 days, you’ll still be doing round one vaccinations when you have to start on round two–twice as much demand.

I’m still optimistic that between Pfizer and Moderna, we’ll be able to get everyone (except anti-vaxxers) vaccinated, but as Ringo Starr said, “It don’t come easy.”

Stanford University distances itself from Scott Atlas’s urging people visit their elderly relatives at Thanksgiving because they’re going to die anyway.

Yup, wasn’t disagreeing. Just wanted to let others know that (if things work out the way the Biden team is planning) people may be able to get the vaccine at CVS if that was convenient for them

Is that how the literalists’ population dwindles? :wink:

A new study is showing that covid-19 has twice the death rate of people who are hospitalized than those hospitalized with the flu.

This doesn’t strike me as surprising. Isn’t COVID just a more deadly disease? It involves the blood vessels and circulatory system, not just the respiratory system. Am I missing something?

New Orleans has effectively cancelled Mardi Gras. No parades – a huge part of the celebration.

For those unfamiliar with Mardi Gras in New Orleans: in a normal year, the first parades would be on the Epiphany (6 January).

From the video description: CNN’s Alisyn Camerota speaks with Jodi Doering, a nurse from South Dakota who says some of her coronavirus patients often don’t want to believe that Covid-19 is real, even in their dying moments. (8 minute video)

Reminds me… my husband’s cousin whose wife is a nurse… and he’s been a covidiot … hasn’t been in my (and his) Iowa FB message box since Nov. 7th when Biden was called the winner and then … well, Iowa’s Covid-19 positive rates went up, up, still going up… and now we’re #2! :frowning:

55,943,189 total cases
1,343,379 dead
38,963,254 recovered

In the US:

11,695,711 total cases
254,255 dead
7,087,796 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

Sioux Falls, SD will start wearing masks:

…and we may soon be able to test ourselves at home:

Oh, and I forgot to note the new worldwide record daily death toll of 10,502.

If you thought things were bad when Texas topped 1 million COVID-19 cases, guess again.

Researchers estimate at least four times as many people actually have caught the virus.

An estimated one Texan in six — roughly 4.75 million people — has contracted COVID-19, according to a statistical analysis by the University of Texas at Austin COVID-19 Modeling Consortium.

The analysis estimates the virus is spreading rapidly and so far has infected more than 16 percent of people in Texas — far more than the state’s official tally.

“The speed at which things can get out of hand is a lot quicker than people expected,” said Spencer Fox, associate director of the consortium.

The consortium’s statistical modeling uses cellphone data to measure mobility and state hospitalization levels to determine where the virus is spreading and how many people have been infected.

It’s not a perfect predictor of the virus’ spread, Fox cautioned, but it dovetails with state estimates. The researchers’ approximation of 4.75 million cases is “generally in the ballpark” of what state health officials believe is the true number of infections, said Chris Van Deusen, a spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, which publishes the state’s official COVID-19 infection figures.

“It varies by condition, but we know and expect that all kinds of diseases are underreported,” Van Deusen said in an email.

In the San Antonio region, the UT consortium’s projections have worsened recently because of the growing number of new infections and hospitalizations.

There’s a 62 percent chance the pandemic is growing here, the latest modeling indicates. The number of infections has increased by 37 percent in the past two weeks.

Altogether, more than 432,500 people — 15.3 percent of San Antonio-area residents — likely have been infected with COVID-19, the UT researchers estimated.

About 24.1 million people, more than 80 percent of the state’s population, live in areas where the virus’ spread is more likely to increase, the consortium’s public online dashboard shows.

States having record new seven-day-averaged New Cases on November 17, 2020

Minnesota
Alaska
Montana
Indiana
New Jersey
California (finally beating the previous high in July)
Utah
Missouri
West Virginia
Virginia
Maryland
Tennessee
North Carolina
Oklahoma

Possibly more telling is the list of states and regions that have NOT had a record high since before this past weekend (before November 14):

Illinois (high on Nov 13)
New York (April 7)
South Dakota (Nov 11)
Iowa (Nov 11)
Rhode Island (Nov 13)
Arizona (July 3)
South Carolina (July 14)
D.C. (May 3)
Louisiana (July 23)
Mississippi (July 27)
Alabama (Nov 13)
Georgia (Nov 6)
Texas (July 17)
Florida (July 14)

Only 14 states and regions out of 52 states and territories did NOT have their highest seven-day-average new case load since last weekend.

Only eight of them have not had a historic high before this month.

I’m not sure I’d characterize that information as “grim.” Rampant spread is bad, but lower fatality rate is good.

If 4X as many people had COVID-19 in Texas, that means the fatality rate in Texas is one quarter what we thought.

Well, you know headline writers…

I agree with your analysis re deaths, etc., but the “grim” part is because so many more people have it than we thought, your (my) chances of catching it. Also, “The speed at which things can get out of hand is a lot quicker than people expected,” when so many more people are infected.

[Aside: I love your screen name and avatar. I used to work in a German bakery in downtown Denver, and became (too) well acquainted with all manner of tortes and other goodies. I could devour you right now! That didn’t come out right.]

But that also means 4X people who might have long-term or life-long health issues.

In eight states, the situation is even more dire. More than 35 percent of hospitals in Arkansas, Missouri, North Dakota, New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin are anticipating a staffing shortage this week. COVID-19 puts pressure on hospitals in two ways. One, staff members get sick or are exposed to the coronavirus and have to stay home, reducing the labor supply. Two, more patients arrive at the hospital, increasing demand. A surge of cases makes both factors worse.

Every airwave in the country should be blasting people with alerts about local hospital capacity right now.

https://www.axios.com/axios-ipsos-poll-biden-covid-trust-214f3b6d-180d-491e-beea-36d4a4ba695b.html

Americans‘ trust in Joe Biden to provide accurate information about the coronavirus has grown across the board since his election win, according to the latest installment of the Axios-Ipsos Coronavirus Index.

Between the lines: It’s the first time Biden won the trust of more than 50% of Americans since the poll started asking the question in August.

This is the Axios-Ipsos Coronavirus Index:

Sweden is giving up the “Swedish approach.”

Even Sweden appears to be abandoning the Swedish model . On Monday, the country’s authorities banned gatherings of more than eight people as they grappled with the second coronavirus wave surging through much of Europe. The new restrictions followed other protocols coming into effect this week, including protective measures around nursing homes and bans on alcohol sales at restaurants and bars after 10 p.m.

On Friday, Sweden recorded almost 6,000 new daily coronavirus cases. The total number of infections is nearing 200,000 in a country of 10 million people. In Stockholm, the capital, 1 in 5 people getting tested are testing positive, and the official number of positive cases could be much higher with more widespread testing. Hospitalizations are rising faster in Sweden than any other European country, and Sweden’s per capita death rate is several times higher than those of its Nordic neighbors Finland, Denmark and Norway.

Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s state epidemiologist, has been the stoic face of the country’s strategy. In the summer, he told skeptics to wait till fall before placing judgment on Sweden’s handling of the crisis. He predicted that Sweden would have accrued a higher level of immunity than its neighbors and that the impact of a second wave would “probably be quite low.” Though Tegnell claimed “herd immunity” was never a goal for Sweden, he appeared to believe that the country’s relative laxity would help it weather the worst of the pandemic in the long run.

“I hoped he was right. It would have been great. But he wasn’t,” Annika Linde, Tegnell’s predecessor, told the Daily Telegraph. “Now we have a high death rate, and we have not escaped a second wave: immunity makes a little difference maybe, but not much difference.”