Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

It can take a very long time to recover, in the sense of having 2 negative test swabs. It can easily stay positive for 2-6 weeks. Doesn’t necessarily mean they are very ill for that period.

And of course there are really more than 17 who have recovered, we just don’t know they had it in the first place.

No; that site is woefully behind: scroll up and check the numbers I posted last night.

The best site for tracking the numbers is still COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

PM Trudeau has announced a big aid package of $C25 billion for employees and businesses. Employee portion will be delivered via the national Employment Insurance plan, with waivers on the usual qualifying rules, like the one month of no job and must be looking for work.

Canadian Snowbirds in Florida and Arizona are discovering that their health insurance for while they’re in the US is in danger of being cut by the private insurance companies. They are being told to get home before the border closes even to Canadians.

Canadian Snowbirds in Florida and Arizona are discovering that their health insurance for while they’re in the US is in danger of being cut by the private insurance companies. They are being told to get home before the border closes even to Canadians.

Canada and the US governments announced that the border will be closed to tourists and ordinary travel, including business travel. Only essential services, like truckers carrying goods across the border essential for the economies will be allowed to cross

219, 246 confirmed infections
8,968 dead
85,745 recovered

In the US:

9,439 confirmed infections
155 dead
108 recovered

The US vaulted into 6th place for confirmed infections. A few 10K achievements will happen tomorrow, including US confirmed infections, France confirmed infections and people killed by COVID-19. The US will likely have more than 200 dead by this time tomorrow.

You can also see state numbers on the World O Meter site now. Here in Nevada we had 29 newly confirmed infections, bringing our total to 84. NewYork is far and away the worst off with 3,083 confirmed infections, 20 dead and just 1 person recovered.

Where’s a tracking site that monitors the number of tests in the US? I only see this reported sporadically if at all, and it’s a really damned important number. Korea ramped up to 160k tests over a shortish number of days – the US not doing so well I’m sure, and I’d like to see improvement or if not a number to point to to hold someone accountable.

This POLITICO live tracker graphs per-state trends of tests given, positives, and deaths. The takeaways I see now:

  • Some states (California, Ohio, Michigan, Nevada, Alabama, Iowa, Delaware) show a rise in tests given, then a recent leveling-off. That’s bad.
  • Some states (Georgia, Texas, Hawai’i, Wyoming) didn’t even start testing until very recently, after they’d reported deaths. That’s worse.
  • Some states (New Jersey, Louisiana) have given very few tests but show ~40%-60% death rates per tested. That’s atrocious.

Overall USA national test numbers are pathetic. I credit criminal negligence at the top.

A question for people in places where schools have closed, have the day-care centres closed too?

Ah, right! Sorry, I blame reading German news for hours and hours on end for this sudden lapse in my ability to understand basic English. :smiley:

One of the Australian states (Tasmania) has locked the borders / gone into self-imposed quarantine.

14 day quarantine on arrival, and $1000 USD fine for breaking quarantine.

This is an island state, and they tend to think they are ignored and exploited by the Sydney/Melbourne dominated federation anyway, but it’s still a huge shock to me.

I think a lot of the small towns are thinking the same thing, but can’t think of a way to implement it. The reservations in NT are going to block people if they can.

In any ordinary situation, I bet the Tassie government would be challenged by the tourism industry on state-trade grounds.

Fast news day in Austria, so here’s an earlier than usual update.

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[li]The state of Tyrol, which has by far the highest number of infections, has been placed under a much stricter quarantine than the rest of the country. Among the prohibited activities are driving (except when there is no place to take care of essential needs within walking distance).[/li]
[li]Doctors and dentists are coming under sharp criticism for refusing to provide urgent care to their patients, or even closing their practices entirely. It is true that all elective therapies and examinations are postponed until further notice, but doctors and dentists are still supposed to receive patients (other than those suspected of coronavirus infections) for things like toothaches, other infections, etc.[/li]
I may have encountered this problem myself yesterday; I called a specialist I had been seeing for an urgent matter and their answering machine informed me that, due to the pandemic, the practice is closed until 6 April, with no substitute doctor named. Of course, I have no way of knowing whether they’re closed due to fear of contracting coronavirus from their patients or if they or their staff actually came down with the infection themselves, making it impossible for them to operate. I called my GP to explain this and luckily he was able to provide the necessary treatment instead.

[li]Government offices nationwide have now been closed. (Previously they had been operating mostly online, with in-person appointments being made only when absolutely necessary.) All relevant deadlines (for court filings, payment of fines, applications for asylum, etc.) have been extended until 30 April.[/li]
[li]A1 Telekom Austria, one of the country’s largest cell phone networks, has turned over its customers’ location data to the government and to the Red Cross in the hopes that tracking peoples’ movements can help them study the propagation of the virus and help authorities enforce the new laws on home quarantine and public gatherings. The move has been sharply criticized by privacy and data protection advocates, who say that, despite the good intentions, this is not a legally permitted use of customer data.[/li]
Italian cell phone operators in Lombardy have been likewise turning their customer movement data over to the government. From this data it was found that only 60% of the population was staying at home. (In contrast to Austria, which has made only a handful of citations and arrests for breaking home quarantine, Italian police have logged over 40,000 violations.)

[li]Police have warned residents about an uptick in scamming. Several coronavirus-related scams are operating, including the selling of fake treatments and cures, but also scammers going door-to-door, posing as the friends or neighbours of the victim’s quarantined relatives and requesting cash for them.[/li]
[li]The federal government, which had previously committed to no spending deficit this year, forecasts a 2020 deficit of at least 1%.[/li]
[li]The city-state of Vienna has announced yet another aid package for businesses and citizens, this one amounting to €85 million. Among its provisions are €50 in taxi credits for all residents over the age of 65, so that they can make essential intra-city trips without risking their health on public transit. The aid package is also being used to pay local tailors to make the masks I reported on earlier.[/li]
[li]Latest virus stats: 1843 infected, 5 dead, 9 recovered.[/li][/ul]

Wow.

Yeah, the situation in NJ is infuriating. I’ve been fighting a cold for over a week now. At least I think it’s a cold. No fever at least, but I am immunocompromised. Naturally I am quite eager to get tested, but I know that when more tests become available, the sites will be flooded with people with no symptoms at all, leaving me, and more importantly, people much sicker than me out in the cold. No pun intended.

Yes, in fact we received an email this morning that even though the governor has specifically excluded day-care/preschools from the school closures the day care for our 1 year old will no open until its ok for the upper schools to open. I’ve been “working” from home this week while watching a 1 year old and a 4 year old. Today we’re getting a foot of snow so my wife is working from home too and she just realized how impossible this is.

I sympathize with you. I am sure there are a lot of people in similar situations, perhaps more dire, that have similar concerns. The fact you are not with fever is a good sign, though. That does not prove you have not been exposed, but does indicate that if you have been exposed, you are not developing a severe reaction. I hope that remains the case.

Testing does not cure anyone. I don’t know about where you are, but around here, a county that has not even had a confirmed case identified, most people are behaving as if everyone is a possible carrier. Local drive-through testing started here yesterday for symptomatic patients only (generally a fever and a referral from a physician is required). The news showed several people being turned away because they had no symptoms, but did not mention if anyone had actually met the testing criteria.

Testing healthy individuals and getting a negative result simply wastes limited resources and feeds the panic.

That simply isn’t true. Yes. when tests are being rationed, then it is better to test those who are worse off. But there is great value in testing as many as possible. The unknown is what feeds panic, thinking that anyone you see might be infected, or that you might be yourself.

Ummm, yeahbut, everyone is a possible carrier.:confused:

Good find, eh. I note that the data is lagging way behind the numbers at WOM, tho. Still, it’s clear and well-organized.