Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

166,486,326 total cases
3,457,851 dead
147,242,961 recovered

In the US:

33,862,398 total cases
603,408 dead
27,399,429 recovered

The day before yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

…was there a big correction in numbers here? Because that seems a huge jump from the day before. (And thanks for the daily posting again :slight_smile: )

I initially had the same reaction. Then I noticed that the older numbers in Bo’s post were from the day before yesterday. So that jump was two days’ worth of numbers, not one.

Aye; that’s a 1-day gap showing there. That’s twice recently that I’ve missed a day. I do indicate it when it happens but this time was more subtle than usual; sorry for the confusion.

167,054,372 total cases
3,468,818 dead
147,976,264 recovered

In the US:

33,882,333 total cases
603,876 dead
27,471,242 recovered

The day before yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

167,527,962 total cases
3,478,355 dead
148,544,144 recovered

In the US:

33,896,660 total cases
604,087 dead
27,502,255 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

167,986,595 total cases
3,487,045 dead
149,302,095 recovered

In the US:

33,922,937 total cases
604,416 dead
27,563,930 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

Good news, everyone!

Interesting that they had to rely on antibody tests for effectiveness. Four positives in the control group isn’t enough to demonstrate effectiveness.

On the other hand, a couple thousand kids jabbed, none of whom had a serious adverse reaction is pretty decent evidence of safety. And it would be bizarre if it didn’t work for teens, safety had to have been the big question.

168,528,040 total cases
3,499,712 dead
150,052,550 recovered

In the US:

33,947,189 total cases
605,208 dead
27,606,442 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

Someone’s been trying to start a smear campaign against the Pfizer vaccine in France and Germany. Other headlines suggest it might be Russia linked.

A weird mutation (as it were) among the anti-vaxxers world. Counterintuitively, some of the later theories mentioned are Canadian. I always had faith in the level-headedness of Canadians…

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/anti-vaccine-movements-shift-their-target-to-the-vaccinated/ar-AAKoLpk?rt=1&ocid=Win10NewsApp&referrerID=InAppShare


“I think it is particularly interesting that people are saying that those who are those who are vaccinated are a risk to those who aren’t,” said David Broniatowski, who’s the associate director for the Institute for Data, Democracy & Politics at George Washington University. “It’s like taking the common vaccine conventional wisdom and flipping it on its head where people will say, ‘if you have not been vaccinated, you’re a risk to those who are more vulnerable and vaccinated.’”

Broniatowski said he’s never seen this before in the history of anti-vaccine rhetoric.

“This is the first time,” Broniatowski said.

The conspiracy centers on one particular myth that people who are vaccinated can emit contagious particles of the coronavirus’s Spike protein and can infect others, a process referred to as “vaccine shedding.” Vaccine shedding is a very rare possibility with live-attenuated vaccines that use a diluted version of a disease to stimulate an immune response. In the rare case there’s enough germ to spread, the shedding usually happens via feces— for example, with the polio vaccine or the measles vaccine.

But even though the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are adenovirus vaccines, it is impossible for shedding to occur in the case of these vaccines. That’s because they don’t actually contain weakened versions of the coronavirus; rather, they contain weak adenoviruses that have been modified to contain a piece of coronavirus DNA.

In other words, vaccinated people cannot shed the coronavirus, and thus they aren’t contagious.

There’s more, including protecting women of childbearing age [they’re the ones we’re always protecting, amirite?] from vaccinated people. If you want a deep dive into the Crazy, read the whole article.

(I don’t know if it’s paywalled. The link is by way of a Microsoft aggregator.)

SB, quick request if you can to show the +/- differences day to day. I always have to mentally estimate them on the fly each day.

I think @Snowboarder_Bo does PLENTY. :roll_eyes: Keep a calculator at hand (or use the one on your phone).

I’m surprised to be the first to post this:

Isn’t this a bit scary, especially in light of Fauci’s recent comments?

Canadians are humans too, so they are not immune to weird and crazy. For example, there are Canadian Trumpists.

At any rate, just shedding the spike protein is not going to be contagious. If anything, it’ll be a very low level (probably not enough to be noticed) form of immunization for those not vaccinated.

However, there is the possibility of vaccines that contain a weakened form of the target virus to be a danger. That weakened form could mutate back into a virulent form. This actually happens with one of the polio vaccines. However, none of the major COVID vaccines is a weakened virus-type. There is one out there that is, but I can’t remember its name.

In the ultimate irony, some of these fools are now advocating masking and social distancing - to protect them from vaccine cooties. Posted a couple of weeks ago in the Pit here:

Fucking maskholes and vaxholes - #674 by Riemann

But then that would be virus rather than vaccine. So in antivaxxer reverso-world, that wouldn’t be a worry.

Sinovac is inactivated virus. They appear to nuke it until it’s pretty thoroughly dead. I’m not aware of any in widespread use that would be characterized as “live-attenuated”, where the risk of infection might be higher.

This one appears to be in Phase 1 trials:

This is absolutely fascinating. I will not be sad if the antivaxxer fools go for this theory, and “protect themselves” by keeping away from all of us vaccinated people. They should really just board themselves up in their homes and not come out again. Win-win.

…it would be harder to mentally estimate them if SB stopped posting them all together! I think the numbers are fine as they are, and want to thank @Snowboarder_Bo once again for taking the time out to post the numbers daily. We all really appreciate it.

Definitely. It’d been “case closed” for months and now the door is, at least, unlocked. Kudos for NOT digging heels and saying “already done it” and asking for the fullest of information even if it contradicts what you’ve said for a year. THAT is real science.