New Jersey was already giving out free beer with vaccinations. Don’t know if it worked or not.
It has nothing to do with that. We could have and eventually did make our own masks but that was delayed because he said it not only wouldn’t work but would actually make things worse.
He knew what he originally said was bullshit.
He didn’t explain it, he made excuses for it. What he did was deliberate and discouraged people from doing the right thing.
Please don’t hijack this thread.
172,426,494 total cases
3,706,563 dead
155,060,668 recovered
In the US:
34,154,305 total cases
611,020 dead
27,986,511 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
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Please don’t junior mod. Next time, just report the hijack. This is only a mod note, not a warning.
To others participating in this hijack: Please drop it. It’s always a good idea to start a new thread if you feel the subject requires further discussion.
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Oops, sorry.
No worries. Heat of the moment and all that. I know you’ll remember for next time.
Nice modding ! 
And responding @Tfletch1👏🏼
If you’re that reasonable, it’s going to take a while to score a troll skin for your mod boots.
172,910,966 total cases
3,717,320 dead
155,622,721 recovered
In the US:
34,174,752 total cases
611,611 dead
28,025,575 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
I’d be tickled pink if I could but get my daily free Krispy Kreme doughnut for the rest of this year. But alas, there are no Krispy Kreme shops anywhere near where I live. Perhaps if I write to their corporate HQ, they’ll send me a huge carton full?
This has probably been covered but I don’t remember it: what’s the reason for the difference in Worldometer’s count (currently 612,061) and the CDC (593,377)?
Just different methodologies, none of which are fully transparent to the best of my knowledge - for example Johns Hopkins splits the difference and lists 596,969 dead in the U.S. as of this post. There have been articles on this in months past, but the takeaway then was that they simply were accessing slightly different sources and collating in a different manner. So the CDC might be relying on more cautious, fully vetted updates while the Worldometer might be grabbing initial data that hasn’t been yet been as fully confirmed as of the minute they grab it. They might also be updating numbers on a different timescale.
Whatever the reason though, best to use them as very rough approximations. It seems the great bulk of experts think most countries, even Western ones, are under-counting to a greater or lesser extent. Usually inadvertently, sometimes purposefully.
From today’s Oregon Health Authority Coronavirus Update email:
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There isn’t one pandemic in Oregon,” said Director Allen. “There are two: One is a pandemic that is dying out among people who are vaccinated. And the other is a pandemic that is raging as fiercely as ever among people who are unvaccinated.”
Referring to data captured between March 1 and May 31 of this year, Dr. Sidelinger pointed out that 98% of COVID-19 cases and 94% of COVID-19 associated deaths were among those not fully vaccinated.
Is there anything to worry about that the vaccinated percent of deaths is 6% while the percent of cases from vaccinated is only 2%? I was reading that if you were vaccinated and got COVID, you would have a more mild case and the symptoms would not be as severe. If that was the case, I would have expected the percent of deaths in vaccinated people to be even lower than the 2% of total cases.
I would guess that’s because the elderly have much higher rates of vaccination than younger cohorts, and are also far more likely to die if they get covid. I wouldn’t worry about it unless I saw an age distribution that didn’t support that hypothesis.
It’s hard to over estimate the impact of age on covid mortality.
(The elderly were also slightly less likely to contract covid prior to vaccination, due to mostly not having to work in public places. At least, according to my state’s data, which I’ve been tracking obsessively.)
Thanks Tamerlane. Yeah, when it gets that high the numbers are just approximations. I was just wondering why the difference.
173,328,934 total cases
3,727,657 dead
156,075,401 recovered
In the US:
34,192,023156,075,401 total cases
612,240 dead
28,054,995 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
Hawaii passed 500 deaths this week. The count stands at 502 as of today.
All restrictions on interisland travel will be lifted on June 15. You won’t have to take a Covid test or show you’re vaccinated.
173,725,873 total cases
3,736,367 dead
156,601,284 recovered
In the US:
34,204,374 total cases
612,203 dead
28,103,491 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: