Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

194,054,146 total cases
4,160,217 dead
176,137,862 recovered

In the US:

35,283,075 total cases
626,658 dead
recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

On 1 July 2021 the US had 17,765 new cases. On 12 July there were 21,715 new cases. Today there were 67,485.

It doesn’t surprise me at all. As he said, the CDC said it was okay. So he believed them. That’s why it’s so ridiculous that they said it was okay for the vaccinated not to wear masks.

I have to say that the messaging at the federal level is really starting to piss me off. Their guidance on masks made sense before the delta variant, but certainly not now. Local governors need to start taking matters into their own hands, and they’re going to be just as dumb if they don’t.

It certainly is a pleasure to wake up this Saturday morning to a post of yours that downplays alarmist language. I hope others will take note. :wink:

Carry on.

Some people in Sydney are not happy about the lockdown:

Vietnam is putting the capitol, Hanoi, on lockdown:

Many states are seeing more than a thousand new cases per day right now; Florida is seeing more than 10,000.

Glad I could make your day. :wink:

I do suspect that efficacy of the vaccines has been reduced somewhat; I just want to see a lot more hard data before I accept that it’s quite that bad. And even if the infection rate is higher, if it’s keeping most of these people out of the hospital, the vaccines are doing their job for the most part.

I agree with you.

I was reading something recently about some counties here in Colorado that have a very high vaccination rate. Even in such areas, the un-vaccinated tend to cluster together, so that there can isolated outbreaks even in cities or counties that have high vaccination rates overall.

Cambridge positives include quite a lot of vaccinated people but Cambridge tests a lot of vaccinated people, so that has something to do with the high amount of positivity in vaccinated people. My impression is that vaccinated people generally don’t get tested, because “vaccinated.” However, a lot of vaccinated people in Cambridge are required to be tested, so we see more positives in vaccinated people.
Which is not really good news at all, since that means in places where frequent testing of vaccinated people does not happen, they probably have more cases than reported.

Perhaps separate police holding areas for vaxxed and unvaxxed?

I agree with you too.

Huh. That says a lot. Vietnam was lightly affected last year. I did not know about the caseload this year. That just emphasizes the viciousness of the Dealta variant.

Here’s some news:

Well, good news for vaccinated, bad news for unvaccinated. Good news for vaccinated because they’re not experiencing symptoms. Bad news for unvaccinated because the vaccinated may unknowingly be carriers and make unvaccinated people sick.

A very interesting video that’s worth a look. It explains why there’s such a discrepancy between the UK and Israeli data on Pfizer vaccine efficacy, and if he’s right, it means that the longer the wait between the first and second jab, the better (up to a point, obviously). Israelis waited three weeks between jabs - just like we did in the US. In the UK, they waited at least twice as long -up to 11 weeks in some cases, which could be the reason for the gap. If true, this has tremendous implications in the US, as it means that US Pfizer recipients could experience a drop off that is similar to what Israel experienced. If you want to cut to the chase where he discusses the differences between Israel and UK data, you can jump in at around 7:40 in the video.

Thanks for pursuing this theme. That is a very good video and, as you said, well worth a look. I did start at 7:30.

If it’s true that many vaccinated Americans will get asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic COVID because of the shortness of time between the two doses (as was done in Israel), he points out that the dire implication of this is that because the US has so many unvaccinated people, those people are going to be much more exposed to the virus from vaccinated individuals than, say, in the UK where vaccinated people do not seem to be picking up the virus.

IOW the unvaccinated will be exposed from other unvaccinated people, as well as from the vaccinated.

The bottom line (to restate) is that vaccinated people in the USA present a grave danger to the unvaccinated even though they themselves will likely only have no symptoms or mild symptoms and are mostly safe from serious/life-threatening disease.

He predicts a huge uptick in cases and hospitalizations among the unvaccinated, and we are, in fact, seeing that.

Dr. Campbell’s videos are good. He’s technically a retired “nurse” trainer, but I think he’s considered a fully-credentialed doctor. He strikes me as extremely well-trained and educated, and up on the latest research. I also highly recommend a YT channel called MedCram, which has lectures from Dr. Roger Seheult, a pulmonary specialist in Southern California.

Beyond that, I read Google Scholar and type in random search terms. It’s important that we arm ourselves with information. The challenge, always, is finding credible information. I stop whatever I’m doing and listen anytime they’re interviewing former FDA commish Scott Gottlieb and also the University of Minnesota professor Dr. Michael Osterholm - check out his site CIDRAP (U of Minn)

We knew house cats could get it, now we know that snwoleopards can catch covid: