Could/Should I Report This Furnace Repairman to BBB?

Gettin’ cold in this neck of the woods. Last week, I tried to turn on my furnace and nothing happened. Neither Hubby or I know anything about furnaces, so we decided to call in a repairman. I went with a locally-owned company because I like to support local businesses. I was told when I called that I would pay a $125 service call charge. Okay, I said.

According to his invoice, the guy arrived at 6:04 PM. He took the cover off the furnace, tinkered a bit, and got it working again. After a while, he called to Hubby and I and told us that our heat exchanger was bad. He pointed to the six gas jet tubes which blow into the main part of the furnace. There were small tongues of flame, flickers really, coming back out around the lip. He said that we probably had a crack in the heat exchanger which was causing this “blow back.” The heat from those errant tongues of flame was tripping a safety switch which was why the furnace wouldn’t work. He told us our brand of furnace was “known for bad heat exchangers.”

I asked him if he had any idea of what the repair costs would be. He said, “Probably about half as much as a new furnace. I can put in a new furnace for you for $3400.”

Asked how long it would take to do the repair, he said it would probably take about three or four weeks to get the part in and about five hours of labor to install it. He mentioned at this point that he could have a new furnace in place in less than two days.

Crushed at thinking I was going to have to spend more than a thousand dollars on the repair, I agreed his company could price a new heat exchanger for me and call me with the estimate. He then handed me his bill: It was $215.75.

“Wait,” says I. “I thought that it was $125 for a service call.”

“Labor isn’t included, ma’am,” he replied smoothly. I went ahead and paid it. I was so upset over the cost of repairs that I wasn’t really thinking clearly. He left at 6:24 PM by his invoce, meaning he spent 20 mins. in my home.

Hubby went right upstairs to the computer room and started searching on the internet. Lo and Behold, our furnace is still under warranty. (20 years on heat exhangers.) He called the local company suggested by the manufacturer who said that while it was labor-intensive (the guy had been right about that) the part itself would be free. Rather than $1500 plus, we’d be looking at a couple of hundred dollars to repair it-- if it even needed to be done.

The furnace guy who came out cautioned me that I couldn’t run the furnace safely-- the safety switch would keep tripping. However, when he left, he left it running. Being cold, I decided to leave it on for a while and wait to see what would happen. I kept going down and putting my hand on top of the furnace to see how hot it was. (If it got hot enough, it was supposed to trip that safety switch.) It’s been three days now, and the switch hasn’t tripped, and the surface of the furnace (where the flames are licking out) is hot, but not so hot that it can’t be touched.

The second guy we called said that the first guy was a “crook” and this was the way he operated. Considering they’re business rivals, I took it with a grain of salt, but now I’m thinking about it and wondering if he should be reported to the Better Business Bureau.

If he’d presented this estimate to someone who wasn’t internet savvy or didn’t think to check to see if it was under warranty, they’d be stuck with paying a huge bill or buying a new furnace (as was suggested about three times). Secondly, the “labor not included” part doesn’t strike me as very fair, especially since I wasn’t told about that over the phone. All I was told was that it would be $125 for a service call.

What say you? Should I contact my BBB and let them know about this, or is this kind of dealings SOP for furnace repairmen?

All the BBB will do is send a letter. It may or may not shame the guy into doing the right thing. The only real good that comes of it is if someone searches the BBB for complaints before they hire the asshole. And plenty of satisfaction can come from that, though I know few people who do searches prior to getting the work.

If you’re into supporting local businesses, you might want to check out Angie’s List which is sort of like the BBB…but not.

It’s basically a group of “neighbors helping neighbors” where you can post your experiences with local (and national) service professionals. You pay to be a part of the list (searching and posting abilities) and companies don’t get added to the list unless you add them or someone else adds them.

Paying to be on the list just so you can snark this dude might suck, but my experience with the list has been really awesome so far (especially being a new homeowner). They send out a really great, professional monthly magazine as well which is targeted to your region.

If you want, you can go as far as explaining your experience with this dude to your regional contact and you might get some resolution or at least get him written up in the “really shitty businesses” section of the magazine.

Also you might want to look him up on servicemagic.com. It’s free to sign up there. Businesses pay to be on there and they pay for leads. If he’s on there it means he gets a good chuck of business from them. If you slam him there you could do some damage, perhaps moreso than the BBB and Angie’s List.

I think the first thing I’d do is call the person who quoted you the $125 service call charge and ask about the labor charge.

Regarding the other sleaziness, if you want to report it someone, find out if your state’s Attorney General’s office has a consumer protection division. My experience is that they carry a lot more weight than the BBB.

My understanding is that the service call cost basically covers transportation time to and from your house. When I have service labour is added to this cost.

However $125 is on the high side, I usually pay about $60. Also 20 minutes work should not cost another $100. What is the hourly rate this guy is charging?

You should double check if you have a cracked heat exchanger. This is the part that keeps combustionables such as carbon dioxide from mixing with the air circulated in house.

Lissa, you did not say whether the 2nd company has inspected your furnace. Carbon **monoxide **is a silent deadly killer. Please shut down your furnace until it is inspected by a licensed technician who has in his grubby little paws a carbon monoxide tester. If he shows up without one, he’s only posing as a professional.

Cracked heat exchangers are fairly common and can be deadly if ignored.

Yes, you got screwed by the first repairman. Report him.

IMHO the BBB is worthless. Send a (Certified mail) letter of complaint to the company, and ask for their “address of Service”. If that does not get results, consider filing with Small Claims. Or you could do what freckafree suggests.

Note that I don’t consider “consider filing a complaint with Small claims” to be “legal advice” per se. **
Fir na tine** is correct about the dangers of CO. However, your Gas Comapny will usually check for CO leaks for free.

I know I didn’t.

Don’t know what the hourly rate for labor is. He didn’t fill out that line on the invoice.

The second repairman said that he charges $59 for a service call.

The second repairman is coming on Monday. He couldn’t get out here any sooner. 'Tis the season for people finding out that their furnaces gave up the ghost over the summer.

Maybe I’m just being naive, but I really wasn’t all that worried about CO. I have detectors, which are tested and re-batteried frequently. I also have a very drafty house. (Put a candle near some of my windows and it will almost be extinguished by the draft.) I also have three dogs, and I imagine would function as a modern equivellent of a “canary in the mineshaft”. (They’d be affected before I would, in other words.)

But if you really think it’s that big of an issue, I’ll turn it off. (And then I can start a thread bitching about how cold I am. Yay!)

$125.00 for a service call is very high, unless he had to come a long way, or it was a non-workday/middle of the night situation. Even so, a service call should include a brief inspection/diagnosis period, say 15 min. to half an hour. If you paid by credit card, you could put it in dispute and follow up w/ a letter stating the circumstances. You might still have to pay, but it would at least cause him some time and effort to respond. Taking him to small claims is probably an exercise in principle and that’s a call you’d have to make. I do think you should file a complaint w/ the BBB and maybe on Angie’s list, I also think it’s worth a phone call, or online complaint to your state’s consumer affairs office. This will probably be part of your atty. generals department.

Some good reference information about carbon monoxide.

Check this out for some good information. Hate to read about you or anyone waking up dead because of CO poisioning.

If you were one of my family members, I’d turn off the furnace.