Odds on that post combination happening?
Poly is reading my thoughts. Better break out the tinfoil.
The answer, of course, is all of them. Okay, okay … you got me.
Lucky:
I think Glitch is his own enigma. He is a fighter, and he is fighting God right now. That is to be expect. The advice of patience was to Glitch, and to him alone. I’ve never heard him speak of love, the stuff God is made of. I’ve never heard him say that he believes in God, the expression of his free will. And I’ve never heard him say that he will not turn away. But God heard these from him last week. I believe that, in time, his own time, Glitch will keep his promises to God. He will love. He will believe. And he will not turn away.
I believe that your case is different. I sense in you the same kind of love that I sense in Gaudere. Do you suppose it is possible that God is already in your heart? I’m not talking about theism here, but about love. I’ve already learned that theism has precious little to do with God, certainly no more than atheism does. I hope this question won’t offend you, but do you think you might be willing to seek God just one more time, but this time, tune out your brain?
God, I know that sounds awful. Speaking as an intellectual type person, tuning out one’s brain is probably the least enlightened thing a person could do. But if you stop and think about it a minute, you realize that if God cannot be known by the mind, but only by the heart, then it becomes obvious that the brain can get in the way.
It isn’t that the mind and the heart are mutually exclusive, at least not always. It’s just that each has a proper function. God told me to discern the world he made with my brain, but to discern Him with my heart.
I think this whole theism business obfuscates our vision of God. Consider the most wonderful, the most beautiful thing you know of. Look at it with your heart. That’s where you see the beauty and the wonder of it. Now look at it with your mind. You will see something completely different. Suppose you thought of chocolate candy, for example. When you look at it one way, it is something wonderful and delicious. When you look at it another way, it is nothing but a blob of chemicals.
Even you yourself, when viewed solely by the mind, are nothing but a heap of dung that experiences motor spasms driven by synaptic discharges.
But is that what you really are?
If I understand you, Lib, and (to you) God==love, then why should anyone have to look for God if love is already in their heart? Certainly one can say “try to love more” without having to bring a deity into it.
There’s that “d” word again.
That’s exactly what I meant about theism getting in the way of God. If the notion of a “deity” bothers you, if it makes you think of Thor sitting on his throne in the sky, then forget about any deity. If the word “God” serves only to blind us to the love in our hearts, then the word “God” is nothing more than an obscenity.
Think of Jesus’ somewhat weird remark, “If your eye offends you, pluck it out,” in that context.
This whole business with the theists insisting the atheists will get their revelations “someday”, or they’re “fighting” God, or they just need to believe before they can believe, or they’ll believe after they’re dead reminds me of the White Queen and Alice in Through the Looking-Glass:
“It’s very good jam,” said the Queen.
“Well, I don’t want any to-day, at any rate.”
“You couldn’t have it if you did want it,” the Queen said. “The rule is jam tomorrow and jam yesterday but never jam to-day.”
"It must come sometimes to ‘jam to-day,’"Alice objected.
“No it can’t,” said the Queen. “It’s jam every other day; to-day isn’t any other day, you know.”
“I don’t understand you,” said Alice. “It’s dreadfully confusing.”
There’s that “d” word again.
That’s exactly what I meant about theism getting in the way of God. If the notion of a “deity” bothers you, if it makes you think of Thor sitting on his throne in the sky, then forget about any deity. If the word “God” serves only to blind us to the love in our hearts, then the word “God” is nothing more than an obscenity.
Think of Jesus’ somewhat weird remark, “If your eye offends you, pluck it out,” in that context.
(This might be a double post. If so, sorry.)
test.
There’s that “d” word again.
That’s exactly what I meant about theism getting in the way of God. If the notion of a “deity” bothers you, if it makes you think of Thor sitting on his throne in the sky, then forget about any deity. If the word “God” serves only to blind us to the love in our hearts, then the word “God” is nothing more than an obscenity.
Think of Jesus’ somewhat weird remark, “If your eye offends you, pluck it out,” in that context.
There’s that “d” word again.
That’s exactly what I meant about theism getting in the way of God. If the notion of a “deity” bothers you, if it makes you think of Thor sitting on his throne in the sky, then forget about any deity. If the word “God” serves only to blind us to the love in our hearts, then the word “God” is nothing more than an obscenity.
Think of Jesus’ somewhat weird remark, “If your eye offends you, pluck it out,” in that context.
There’s that “d” word again.
That’s exactly what I meant about theism getting in the way of God. If the notion of a “deity” bothers you, if it makes you think of Thor sitting on his throne in the sky, then forget about any deity. If the word “God” serves only to blind us to the love in our hearts, then the word “God” is nothing more than an obscenity.
Think of Jesus’ somewhat weird remark, “If your eye offends you, pluck it out,” in that context.
There’s that “d” word again.
That’s exactly what I meant about theism getting in the way of God. If the notion of a “deity” bothers you, if it makes you think of Thor sitting on his throne in the sky, then forget about any deity. If the word “God” serves only to blind us to the love in our hearts, then the word “God” is an obscenity.
Think of Jesus’ remark, “If your eye offends you, pluck it out,” which, in any other context is a weird thing to say.
Hey, Gaudere, did you catch that?
If you missed it, I can post it again.
[…is my head spinning round and round?]
This is starting to remind me of a bad Max Headroom re-run…
† Jon †
Phillipians 4:13
Can I get a witness?
Well, hopefully David will clean up the mess. ::whispers:: I warned you, Lib–“Trust in the cgi! Whatever you do, don’t hit the submit button twice!” But do you listen to me? Nooo…
Well if you admit that so-and-so loves, so you think they’ve already found God, then why bother telling them to seek God if you admit they’ve already found Him?
And I think you’re a bit hasty to say Glitch is fighting God. That seems like just a variation of the “it’s your fault God didn’t answer”. Glitch is certainly trying a damn sight harder to find God than I am nowadays.
Whoa, wait a minute.
Number one, when I say Glitch is fighting God, that is a compliment of the highest order to Glitch, and he can testify to that. He and God are engaged in a battle of honor, which I believe that both will win. And that is why I keep telling Glitch that he is God.
Number two, the reason I asked Lucky to look once more was merely so she could realize that what is in her is the Supreme Being. If you take the kind of love that say, a mother has for her child, and then make that perfect and unconditional, then you have God.
Finally, you already have seen. You know very well where God is. You don’t need me to tell you. In fact, you told me. Remember?
Yeah, I can take agape and make it perfect, but that’s just a concept to me. To you, apparently, it really exists permeating the entire universe (as a fifth-dimensional being). There is a bit of a difference there. I dunno, I am just wondering about your current conception of God. Does God think? Is any of our love from us at all or is it all through Him? (I suspect the answer to this, but I’m asking anyway.)