Could you knock out an enraged chimp?

What’s the cardio like on a chimp? Couldn’t you try and keep out of reach until it at least tired or got bored of chasing you? How good is a chimp at sprinting for say, 50 yards.

If you have access to an obstacle course and happen to be a Navy Seal you could probably lose him:

Yeah, any technique that begins with “first, get the enraged chimp in full guard…” is one I’m going to take a pass on.

Sorry I meant omoplata, it was too early in the morning for me to post. :stuck_out_tongue:

Check this out.

I’m surprised that nobody has addressed this directly, but Magiver, you are the one who apparently does not understand physics.

Two cars with the same mass, each traveling at 30 mph and colliding head-on is equivalent to an identical car traveling at 30 mph (not 60 mph, as you state) and hitting a brick wall (or other immovable object). This is also equivalent to a car traveling at 60 mph and hitting a parked car of equivalent mass.

A car hitting a brick wall at 60 mph is equivalent to two similar cars each traveling at 60 mph and colliding head-on.

–robby (former physics teacher)

I think the trouble is this concept is very hard for some people to come to grips with.

The mythbusters did this very issue:

That was great!

The scary thing is, that chimp didn’t look as if it was trying very hard. I’d imagine a different outcome if the SEAL had a bunch of bananas in a see-through rucksack on his back.

I started to earlier having seen the Mythbusters episode linked to above but really I don’t think anything will change his mind.

Chimp attacking man.

In the video the man is clearly not attacking the chimp but it looks like a few well placed kicks wouldn’t have hurt. It also looks like the water defense might work well if its available. Based on this video, I’m coming around to thinking you might have a shot at a KO - albeit a long shot.

A few parts of that video seem to support a point I brought up in post #156: the man here is obviously not very strong, but a few times when the chimp yanks at his arm, he yanks back and lifts the chimp off the ground, killing its power and leverage. This leads me to think that a big, muscular, trained fighter would have a good chance against a chimp, and probably run all over it if it was wearing Meatros’s mouthguard.

The chimp doesn’t need “power and leverage”. The way apes fight (at least according to Frank buck, and a lot in this thread seems to corroborate it) is to pull in close and bite. Holding it off the ground won’t keep it from doing that.

Yeah, apparently a chimp can run at 25 mph. Definitely wasn’t trying very hard.

I can’t see the video from here, but, it seems to me that chimps are probably pretty comfortable hanging. They spend a lot of time in trees and on anything they can climb. I doubt they’d be disoriented by leaving the ground the way a human is. A chimp would probably just pull on the arm that lifted him, and climb right up to the neck in nanoseconds.

Maybe if you went in low and grabbed a foot you could swing him in a circle and bang his head on something hard, but I still bet he’d just bend the leg, curl up, and be fighting you immediately.

In that particular video, it seems like a strong, trained fighter might have had a chance with either kicking the solar plexus or the head for a KO. Again a long shot but a chance none the less.

I was suggesting more throw it, punt it, shove it; overwhelm it with superior mass, if not strength. Obviously its teeth would be a pretty big equalizer here, if it could get them in contact with you. What was interesting to me, though, was that the chimp wasn’t completely dominating this guy, and not only was he not even attempting to fight back, he was also pretty much the picture of the proverbial 98lb weakling.

Here’s a great story of a guy (who went on to become a professional golfer) boxing an orangutan.

Link.

Ok… Let’s just say ole’ chimp had an anti-bite mask on… How would this go now?

I suspect you’d still get your ass handed to you, or your scrotum, but this surely removes what seems to be their biggest advantage.

This has already been brought up. Start at post #143 and read on from there.

Hey look! A spider!