Yep. I have it installed on three pcs, as well as several VMs, and only one of those installed has a touch screen, mic or camera.
Same here. Touch screens are fine for smart phones and tablets. No need for laptops and desktops or real work.
BigT, I absolutely don’t understand what you are saying about Cortana. I have had nothing to do with him/her/it and don’t see how he/she/it could interfere with anything I do with my computer. What exactly does Cortana have to do with using the computer or the internet? Please explain.
Bullshit!!!
From the first version of windows, up thru Office 2003 all of the keyboard shortcuts were the same. Then they came out with that abortion of a product called Office 2007 with that PoS “ribbon”. Not only did they change the shortcut keys for no reason whatsoever but you could only access certain things from specific tabs in the ribbon. With Win10 they’re doing what they did in Office 2007, which basically forces your hands off of the keyboard & to use the mouse. For people like myself who are keyboard power users this is a significant & drastic change.
May the asshole architect who came up with this idea be treated worse than a slave who strikes a Roman citizen…for starters. :mad:
Minor nitpick: Office is not Windows. Yes. Microsoft has played silly reindeer games with many of Microsoft Office’s keyboard shortcuts.
Most of the Microsoft Windows shortcuts (“Windows Key + letter”) have remained constant since at Windows 95 and NT 4.0.
Carry on.
MINOR? Kind of a big nitpick. Office is NOT Windows, and I’d love it if users could start differentiating the two. It would help tremendously with problem solving if users knew the difference between an operating system and a program run within that operating system. Thank god they’re changing the name of Internet Explorer so it can stop getting confused with Windows Explorer though. That was a terrible naming choice on their part.
Well, some of us like understatement. :rolleyes: Yes, distinguishing between the environment and the application is important for a complete understanding of your tools, but for some folks that’s just more computer shit that doesn’t matter. Which makes tech support bitterly difficult, but that’s the burden of giving a shit about technical details. I have my tech support flowchart T-shirt and my “No, I will not fix your computer” coffee mug for good reason.
It’s moot, because the OS itself made a very radical change with Windows 8. I used to make my living programming for Windows, and I can’t believe how hard they made it for non-touch screen users with that edition.
Huh? What’s so hard about using Windows 8 with a mouse? Seriously, I don’t get it. OK, there’s a tile instead of a button. Use the mouse to click the tile. Done.
I hated the metro interface that came up when you hit the windows key. Now with 10 I get the start menu back. Except Win8 metro interface was just your start menu with tiles instead of menu items.
Seriously, what’s hard about using Win8/10 without a touchscreen. I mean I have a touchscreen on my laptop, but I barely use it except sometimes in certain games. I never use the touchscreen while working, and everything is fine. So what specifically do you think won’t work without using a touchscreen? Maybe you use some functionality that I never use? Because all the normal stuff I do on Win7 is the same as Win8 and Win10.
Does it look a little different? Yeah, but so? One of my friends sets his computer to look like it used to back in Windows 2000, when everything was normal, not weird and confusing like XP or Win7. Well, if you want Win10 to look like that, feel free to change it. Otherwise what’s the problem?
I took the plunge last night by setting up the install before I went to bed. When I woke up it had installed but changed my system language.
Thanks fuckers.
Switched over tonight and so far nothing has caught on fire or wound up covered in bees so I guess it’s a success. Spent a short time turning off the “spy” settings and looking up on the web to make sure I got them all. Aside from some cosmetic differences, looks about the same as Win7.
I switched over on my main computer to take advantage of DX12 down the line and other gaming related benefits. We have another computer running Win7 that curiously never received the notifications or nags about switching. It’s running a 100% legit copy of Windows (bought directly from MS, in fact) but seems to have been forgotten. On the other hand, my wife has no interest in seeing things change and it’s not used for anything where I’d worry about the latest & greatest improvements. So one less computer to worry about switching over.
Can you tell us more about that? What settings did you change?
I did both my laptop and my tower over the past few days. I do have a couple of questions.
I’ve looked at getting rid of the dumb lock screen/login screen. I have no need of it and it’s rather stupid to have if I don’t want. Seems I’d need to play with the registry if I don’t want it and I’m not that upset about it, yet.
However, my laptop does not have the lock screen, the one with the picture on it, but it does have the login screen with my name on it. The tower does and I wonder why there’s a difference. Has anyone found an easier way to turn that crap off with out going through the registry? It’s rather pointless for me.
My most annoying thing going on though is on my tower is my screen turns off every two minutes or so and goes to the damned lock screen, so either I have to catch it when it turns off or give the damn thing a couple of clicks. I hate it. I’ve got it set up to turn the screen off after 15 minutes of inactivity, that didn’t help. I then tried to set it to never turn the screen off and that didn’t help. It’s rather frustrating as I was trying to write some stuff out and the screen would turn off. Is there some way to keep my screen on?
There’s a bunch of articles about it if you search something like “Windows 10 privacy settings”. Here’s one from Ars Technica.
I intend to watch for updates to these topics after Anniversary Update drops. Given MS’s insistence on Cortana in that version, I would be surprised if they didn’t undo the privacy and telemetry changes folks did with Win 10 in the first year.
Minor nitpick - nitpicking someone when you don’t understand what they said.
I know what the difference is; go reread what I said. From the first GUI version of their OS all of the shortcut keys were the same for both the OS & their business productivity suite & pretty much every other program out there until some dipshit decided we want a pretty ribbon in the 2007 version of the business productivity suite. Now they’ve decided to break their OS to match the business productivity suite.
Why the eff would someone think it’s a good idea to change shortcut keys that have been in use for 25+ years? :smack:
In some cases, you can continue to use shortcut keys, just different ones than you’ve used the majority of your life while in other cases you can’t use them anymore; you need to be in a specific tab of a “ribbon” to do something. There’s no benefit to change for change’s sake & taking away a feature/function that some of your users used doesn’t benefit anyone. You used to give me two ways to do something, now I only get one. It was probably more work to take it out of the code than to leave what existed there. That’s an improvement?
I looked up how to do that, followed the instructions, and…it’s still there. So now I’m worried I may have screwed something else up.
For now, like you, I’m putting up with it. It’s a minor inconvenience. But if someone can point to a way to turn that off that actually works, I’d like to try again.
Maybe I missed something, or maybe Microsoft has since added more mouse/desktop options since it first came out. I only used Win 10 for about four hours when it came out and simply got sick of everything now being ‘swiping’ (read: pinching & zooming) instead of clicking and dragging (hence every app now constantly runs full screen). Again, maybe they changed this, but I also hated how difficult it had now become to set the default app for a file type. Win 10 refuses to let you not use its new apps without hacking the freakin’ registry.
Something else I only just discovered about the Mail app is why some of my email refused to appear in my Inbox. It was all there in my iPhone email inbox and if I opened the Outlook.com site on Internet Explorer it was all in my Inbox there as well. I finally discovered that, by default, the Mail app sorts things it decides are ‘Newsletters’ or ‘Social Updates’ into those respective (and semi-hidden) folders. That is ludicrous. I get that some people get dozens, even hundreds of emails a day, but it should ask if and how you want to use these features, not have them turned on automatically. And it should also allow you to turn them off and delete those superfluous (and fake) folders. I can’t find a way to do either.
In the end, I use a desktop computer as a ‘work station’. I sit down in front of my desk, to ‘work’ with it (and I don’t mean to make a living with it, I just mean not to use it like a rental car touchscreen kiosk or a TV remote control). I use my smartphone as a consumer electronic appliance. And never the twain shall meet. I wish Microsoft would release ‘Windows 10 Professional for Work Stations’ instead of forcing this kludge on all of us.
Maybe I should play with a Microsoft Surface tablet and see if that’s where my future desktop computer may lie… 
I use 10 on a laptop. I have only ever used the keyboard and the touchpad to do anything. Also, I don’t use 10’s idea of “mail” and I have no problem getting apps I don’t like to be invisible. There are things I don’t particularly like about 10 but the things you mention aren’t a problem for me.