Covid Vaccines in Canada

The Quarantine Zone
513

She’s over 80, so she’s double vaxxed with Pfizer. On the other hand, I’m in my 50s so I received one shot of AZ with a Pfizer second shot which puts me in the mixed up camp. Luckily I don’t expect the US to ever care about vaccination status.

The only trips I have planned over the next 12 months are the US and Iceland. Iceland explicitly recognizes mixed mRNA and mixed AZ/mRNA so I’m good there. I figure past next summer it will be moot because we have either beaten this or we will have moved on to boosters.

514

Today’s numbers for fully vaccinated in countries above 1 million population, with increases since last time I posted on July 28

United Arab Emirates 69.9% (Up 0.50%)
Chile 63.54% (Up 0.29%)
Uruguay 63.50% (up 1.03%)
Israel 61.93% (up 0.30%)
Qatar 59.27% (up 0.42%)
Canada 57.98% (up 1.24%)
Hungary 56.20% (up 0.24%)

Interestingly, of these countries, Canada has the largest % of folks only partially vaccinated, which means our pool of potential to be fully vaccinated would seem to be larger

515

Just posted this on another thread. These are quite good numbers when compared to many areas of the USA.

516

Today’s numbers for fully vaccinated in countries above 1 million population, with increases since last time I posted on July 30

1. United Arab Emirates 70.6% (Up 0.70%)
2. Chile 64.45% (Up 0.91%)
3. Uruguay 64.00% (up 0.05%)
4. Israel 62.13% (up 0.30%)
5. Qatar 60.36% (up 1.09%)
6. Canada 59.39% (up 1.41%)
7. Singapore 57.98 (new entry)
8. Spain 57.61 (new entry)
9. Belgium 57.21 (new entry)
517

Chile has a very high vaccination rate because they early went all-in on getting as much vaccine from anywhere as they could. They got a lot of CoronaVac (Sinovac), so another factor is that they were not one of the countries that couldn’t get CoronaVac because the Chinese wanted to direct supplies somewhere else.

CoronaVac is, I think, an inactivated virus. In theory, this makes it potentially less effective because it’s not targeted at the stable critical region of the Corona Virus, and potentially more effective because it may excite a broader immune response.

Chile had a big outbreak following Christmas, perhaps indicating that CoronaVac is not very good at preventing outbreaks (it has a ??? reported efficiency rate of ~60% ??? instead of ~85% for some other vaccines), but the January~April outbreak wasn’t Delta was it?

How is Chile doing against Delta?

518

All of the top countries, including Canada, are now running into limits based on vaccine hesitancy rather than supply and distribution problems. Anyone in Canada or the US over 12 can get the vaccine if they want it.

I just read that 50% of hospital staffs in California have not been vaccinated. And 40% of New York teachers are refusing the vaccine. What the hell is up with that?

519

Cite please?

520
521

That cite doesn’t show any of that. Looks like a deeply flawed reading of the news.

  1. It says ~40% (just a bit less than that at the moment) aren’t vaccinated. It doesn’t say they all refuse the vaccine. It says they haven’t been vaccinated yet. Sure, some of them probably do refuse but almost certainly not all of them.

  2. It doesn’t mention teachers specifically but department employees, which include everybody from teachers to administrators to coaches to nurses to security workers to staff members. I’d say janitors, except that’s usually contracted out these days and wouldn’t count.

  3. There’s nothing in there about California in general. Doing a quick Google tour,it is true that at some - not all - California hospitals, the unvaccinated rate is indeed at 50% or more. But at many others, the vaccinated rate exceeds 90%. I’d be surprised if the overall hospital employee vaccination rate in California did not meet or more likely exceed California’s overall average vaccination rate (65% at least one dose, a majority full vaccinated, but with significant differences in distribution by location).

522

Perhaps discussion of New York teachers and California hospital staff could go in another thread?

523

I found exactly the same cite and was more focused on healthcare workers than teachers. I found that number highly suspicious.

Anyway, dropping the hijack. Sorry.

524

Those numbers are converging pretty damn quickly. In the State of New York, over 75% of adults have received at least one dose, and the majority of that group are already at two. If 40% of a given profession are well below that, there is almost unquestionably more vaccine refusal in that group.

As to what proportion of unvaccinated people are refusers… at this point, it’s clearly most of them.

And to go back to Sam’s point, wouldn’t one expect the refusal rate amongst health care workers to be lower than the norm?

525

I’d like to see this broken down into doctors, ICU nurses, Practical nurses, care aides, hospital cleaners, porters, etc.

526

Today’s numbers, with updates since last time I posted on Aug 2:

1. United Arab Emirates 71.5% (Up 0.90%)
2. Uruguay 65.41% (up 1.41%), up one spot
3. Chile 64.54% (Up 0.09%), down one spot (data may be delayed)
4. Israel 62.28% (up 0.15%)
5. Singapore 61.85% (up 3.87%), up two spots
6. Qatar 62.58% (up 2.22%), down one spot
7. Belgium 61.17% (up 3.96%) up two spots
8. Canada 60.93% (up 1.54%), down two spots
9. Spain 59.96% (up 2.35%, down one spot)