Is this like not realizing that Greenland is not where you think it was?
Warren is the one who actually, and repeatedly, took positions earmarked for Native Americans. You must be OK with that, but damn anyone who reminds people that Warren is a liar and a cheat.
It’s more like your not being able to convince people that your version of global warming/cooling is real. Better luck next millennium.
Well, not my problem that you choose to remind all what a willful ignorant you are. As Trump is indeed.
And here you demonstrate that you skipped the cite I made, the reprehensible insults made very recently to the Native Americans by Trump did not land just on Warren.
Whichever, his lawyer sure hasn’t got a tin ear to PR.
It appears that you have lots of problems. Good luck solving any of them.
Not having trouble with context, unlike many on the right that think that ignoring what the MAGA hats do represent now will fly.
You might want to rephrase that when you are sober.
I prefer to have problems with grammar rather than having problems like yours, showing all how you are a willful ignorant that skipped cites, and that you ignored also that I did look at at a more complete report and not the early ones about the incident indeeed.
None of those post of mine show me condoning bullying and harassment, I called the man a troll which is a form of bullying in my opinion.
As a matter of fact one of them was my response to Budget Player Cadet saying about a gay man “If I hated an immutable part of my identity that much, I would have killed myself years ago.”, that resembles a type of bullying gays are subjected to but, it’s OK because Yiannopoulos is a bad person, right? I am sure if Yiannopoulos would have said to a gay man “If I hated an immutable part of my identity that much, I would have killed myself years ago.” you and BPC would be more than willing to his rap sheet.
You, like Evil Economist only see what you want to see and this is a problem if you want to put yourself in a position of judging others.
Yes, Yannopoulos has engaged in bullying and harassment and where he has done so I have no problem in denouncing it, but those post where not about that and last time I checked he, unlike you, is not here so I can’t tell him what I think about that.
Just saying, you know, most people drop the “but he did it too” excuse by age five or so.
I do take notice that in order to show my “track record” of opposing cyber bullying and harassment you went trawling for old posts but choose you bring up none where I have explicitly talked against cyber bullying and harassment, of which I’m sure there are plenty; again I’ll point the irony that in my first post in this thread I made this point on the way people are demonized “it’s much easier to substitute reality with an appropriately validating narrative”.
I came across the term Virtue Signaling in the Economist magazine. I don’t think it necessarily implies insincerity by my reading. Frankly I’ll have to keep my eyes open for other uses of this fairly recent term.
In your mind. The camera does a pan. It shows the kid in one position during the pan… and another when it returns to him. The kid moved.
Before that, the veteran was making his way through the crowd. When he was stopped, Smirkface was planted between himself and the steps. Smirkface was blocking traffic. Your depiction is inconsistent with the facts shown in the video.
Commentator Josh Marshall at TPM: The boy who was at the center of the confrontation on the other side of Phillips, Nick Sandman, later released a statement in which he claims he was “startled and confused” and attempting to defuse the situation by “remaining motionless and calm.” He says he was saying a “silent prayer” in the viral video in hopes that the situation would not get out of hand.
I’m sure there was some element of being startled or even confused. Few of us are ever thinking only one thing in a chaotic situation. But I see no way to reconcile Sandman’s claims with what’s actually on the video. He can be seen hipping and hawing around Phillips like the rest of the kids just before the stand off and he seems more cocky and defiant than anything like trying to appeal for calm in the video that went viral. Eyewitnesses claim they heard the boys making various denigrating remarks about Native Americans. I heard some of those on the video but not all of them. Phillips and Sandman gave conflicting accounts of whether Sandman refused to move as Phillips tried to walk up the steps. At least the video itself makes it hard to resolve that.
The original video especially is so loaded – smiling white boy in a MAGA cap standing on the verge of laughing in the face of an impassive Native American beating a ceremonial drum – that it’s probably impossible for anyone to look at it and not project all sorts of beliefs, fears, grievances about the society we live in. But again, I don’t think Sandman’s explanation is credible. I think he decided to stand his ground, get in the guy’s face, and smile a kind of satisfied smile to show he wasn’t backing down. Meanwhile, his friends are surrounding both of them, goofing, taunting, jeering. Again, the chopping hand motion tells the story.
One side note that probably deserves more attention. There were apparently chaperones with the boys. Again, these are high school students on a school trip. Whatever you think of the rest of it, all the videos show numerous points at which adults should have intervened but apparently didn’t. Making Sense of the Phillips-Sandmann Viral Video - TPM – Talking Points Memo
I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m not an American. And from the videos offered here and otherwise online, I can’t figure out the good guys from the bad guys.
But I DO know that you Americans need to get your shit together. If stuff like this is dividing the country, you have serious problems.
Read that again: America is in serious trouble. How are you going to deal with it?
You live in a place where spiders eat Volkswagens.
A third viewing makes me less certain whether the kid moved or not. I’m not sure why he didn’t step aside though - that smirk certainly doesn’t look like a credible attempt at de-escalation. If somebody is headed towards a staircase, I generally let them climb the staircase. Normal people don’t get in the faces of performers. The end of the vid clearly shows that the veteran was surrounded at all sides. It also show that he was effective in distracting the mob.
Stuff like this isn’t dividing the country. Stuff like this is dividing twitter for a couple of days.
America is in serious trouble though. I campaigned during last year’s elections. I’m kicking back for a couple of months before next year’s election heats up. I stand ready with my friends to demonstrate if Mueller is fired.
Classic bullshit tactic - when you can’t defend what is said (because it’s indefensible), shift the conversation to your right to say it, even though that right was never under threat to begin with. That way, you stop needing to defend it. Exactly the kind of argument I’d expect from a disingenuous shitbag like doorhinge. Why, exactly, do we tolerate his presence here? He literally never posts anything worth reading and if he were banned, the result would be a better forum.
On a note that isn’t unbelievably stupid, I saw this on twitter and thought it belonged here:
As a 49 yr old, when I survey the reactions to Trump, Kavanaugh, & MAGA Teen, the main vibe I get goes something like this: “Oh my God, these are the same guys from school that beat me up, called me faggot, or sexually assaulted me, and they won. They’re all getting away with it”
“Let’s not ruin these kids’ lives!” comes the refrain from the crowd. But these are a bunch of pasty-white conservative brats going to a private prep school. Rich white conservative kids in a community that will never fucking punish them for being shitheads in any meaningful way (case in point: fucking blackface to mock black athletes). How, exactly, are we supposed to “ruin their lives”? By doxxing them? They’re still rich white kids in an environment that seems to nurture exactly this kind of shitty, racist behavior, and the odds that this blows over before any of them are out of high school are pretty fucking high.
I wish these kids lived in an environment where they would see some kind of consequences for being gigantic shitheads. But the reality is, they won’t. They’re going to just be another group of shitty rich white kids learning that their actions don’t really have consequences. That’s why people keep posting “glow-up” pictures where picture one is this MAGA brat and picture two is Brett Kavanaugh. Because that’s what happens when you get a bunch of stupid little psychopathic shitheads who learn that their actions will never have consequences for them.
Imagine if this crowd was poor and black. Do you think we’d be getting a whole bunch of “OH THINK OF THE CHILDREN” posts? I think at least one if not more of them would probably end up arrested or kicked out of school, and unlike rich white kids, that would actually fucking mean something. :mad:
So yeah, I hope this haunts them for a few years into the job market. They can take it. And they need to learn that their actions have consequences at some point, because our society is really fucking bad at teaching rich white kids that lesson.
Oh fuck off, of course a 16 year old could have written that. I could have at 16.
Fair cop, my dear old bean … but it’s not like we are showing disrespect to the German veteran’s heritage and culture while we are at it.
…Deadspin has a good article this evening.