Covington Catholic High (in case it hasn't been mentioned already)

By the by, I take for granted that doorhinge has been tripping since 1993.

Must have been some really bad stuff then, because he’s not just making up his own reality and unable to make a coherent point like most people tripping, he’s also a complete asshole about it. But your theory certainly makes more sense than he does. Which is a pretty low bar.

The old man, and his camera crew, were supposed to have been visiting the Lincoln Memorial in order to attend the Indigenous People’s March. That would be his “cause”. To draw attention to the issues championed by the Indigenous People’s March. This isn’t rocket surgery.

I’m glad that you understand that the The NY Post isn’t “the internet.” If I bump into anyone who actually said that the The NY Post was “the internet”, I’ll refer them to you for clarification. I’m not sure how much interest that will generate?

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Is that a actual rule, a general rule, or simply something you made up in order kill time?

I figure George W. Bush had a back room filled with celebratory cocaine for his dad’s second inauguration but it was going unused until doorhinge found it and took all of it.

Not a user here: is cocaine the one that gives you a false sense of competence? If so, I agree: Cocaine.

If the kid had made that ‘reasonable’ response, it would have been described as a violent attack on a poor native elder. He would have been hateful, disrespectful, and people would have been calling for assault charges. The general level of nuttery over this whole stupid thing would have gone to 12 (it’s already at 11).

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Hahahaha. You’re a hoot. You have no evidence that proves that the teenager was smug, unremorseful, self-righteous, or arrogant. It appears that you’re just making shit up. Appears to be a lot of that going around lately.

You also expect those “children” to back down from bullies. Why, because they’re white? The old man, and his entourage, made no attempt to explain to those “children” why they wanted the steps that the “children” were occupying. That shows very poor communications skills.

Maybe. So what? Does that make the response any less reasonable, if I can assume you agree that it is.

Of course. It also would have been reasonable to say, 'Get your drum out of my face and get out of my personal space." It would also have been a reasonable response to have just turned his back on him. The kid was not the aggressor.

If someone got up in my face like that, I probably would not have behaved as passively as that kid did. Especially not after having to spend the previous hour listening to racists scream epithets at me. I probably would have told him to remove that drum from my face or I would remove it for him and put it in a place he wouldn’t like. I’ve never been one to take shit from bullies.

Right, and if you were just minding your own business and inconspicuously checking out the Mall, people might understand your reaction. But context is everything, and these teenagers were walking around wearing MAGA hats and were true to MAGA form.

Of course we’re missing the obvious: why mess with a lone Native American guy beating a drum when the Black Israelites were the ones who were apparently the real aggressors. It’s funny how he stared down and old man but wanted none of the Black Israelites.

Tough guy.

They just fell from the sky, eh?

No, they chose to put on MAGA hats, fully aware of the response that they would get.

Please cite the readouts from your mind reading machine that corroborate your story.

Otherwise, admit that you are making shit up.

Philips was trying to defuse the situation. Had he not gotten involved, then it is quite likely that there would have been a physical altercation between the CC kids and the BIs.

I see no evidence of yours and Shodan’s (wonder why people think you are a right winger with allies like that, eh?) assertion that Philips was trying to provoke something.

Ah, using the negative reaction that you would have to a hypothetical to discredit the hypo. No, if he had done what Bryan described, then there would have been no such response as you imagine.

Would it have been reasonable for the kid to take two steps to the left or to the right, and allow Philips to pass?

What I hear you saying is that you would not only respond to speech with violence, but that you would take out your anger caused by one group on another person who happens to be a convenient target for you. I mean, you wouldn’t threaten violence on a bunch of adult black men hurling racial epithets at you, but you would threaten an old man who is playing his drum.

And MAGA hoodies. :slight_smile:

The old black guys have every right to stand there and say what they want. Once someone crosses into my personal space and goes nose to nose with me, a line has been crossed. And no, I wouldn’t hit the person for that or anything, but telling him in strong terms to back off is fine.

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The old man, and his entourage, did a really poor job of communicating their intentions. Marching up to within inches of their intended victim, pounding drums in his face, shouting in some unintelligible dialect. Only a racist who is trying to justify their later attacks on a group of teenagers, their families, and their school will believe that horseshit.

Would it really be considered reasonable to step aside for someone when it clearly looked like the old man was targeting the teenager, and neither the old man, or his entourage, had made their intentions clear? The old man, and his entourage, had plenty of room to walk around the teenager, or follow the teenager wherever he went.

And bullies, and racists, chose to target people for wearing clothing they don’t approve of. How progressive of them.

No one else had any problem moving aside to let him through, just this one little asshole, who apparently wasn’t brought up right (which wouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who’s see his awful mother talk).

The only person involved who has been saying that the intent of Phillips was to defuse the situation is… Phillips. You know, the one already caught lying about bunch of children to make them look bad. The one who sauntered right up to a 16 year old and got in his face, for peace I guess. Also, the notion that the kid was ‘blocking’ him is crazy. Those steps are 100 feet wide. There’s also this thing called language - if someone is in your way, your first thiught should be to say, ‘excuse me, I need to get past you’, not to walk up to that person and stare them down while banging a drum in their face.

Where I come from, that kind of behaviour is called ‘spoiling for a fight’, and it’s the kind of thing two agressive males do in an altercation, usually right before the pushing starts and fists start flying. There is no way you are going to convince me that Nathan Phillips was anything other than an activist triggered by a MAGA hat, looking for a viral moment he could catch on camera.

By the way, that nice peace-maker has called for the kids to be expelled and their teachers tos be fired. Such a kind, loving man. A real peacemaker, he is.

And he should have done it without interrupting the prayer he was chanting. Through magic.

There was a day when wearing a Che Guevera T-Shirt in certain parts of Miami could get you a beat-down. And the left of the time reacted in horror to the idea, because clothing you chose to wear was speech and everyone had a right to be offensive. Even though Miami was full of people who had to flee that murderous bastard, people still had a right to parade around wearing Che’s image. And I actually agreed.

I can even remember when the left supported Illinois Nazis right to march, because back then the left actually cared about things like individual autonomy and the right to be offensive and let your freak flag fly.

Apparently, those days are gone. A Maga hat is now hate speech, and wearing one makes you a target - and reasonably so, apparently. And Trump doesn’t even register on the scale of horror that has Che Guevera, Castro, Chavez and Maduro occupying it.

Speaking of that, I see Ocasio Cortez has broken with the Democratic Party (and Canada, and the EU and other latin countries) and taken the side of Maduro, Cuba and Russia in opposing the ouster of Maduro in Venezuela. What a shock.