Cowboys & Aliens

Wait, someone else has a crush on Clancy Brown? Go Rawhide! I was more confused than interested until I saw that he was involved (just now, when you mentioned it, I haven’t seen him in the trailers).

The trailer reminds me of Firefly.

I haven’t seen him in the trailers, either, but he’s listed on the imdb page for the movie and vice versa. Oh, wouldn’t it be funny if I went to see it just for him, and it turned out his scenes had been cut?

I love Rawhide too, how could one not? :slight_smile: That’s one of the few roles I’ve seen him in where he’s a decent guy. He’s also a decent guy in Normal with Tom Wilkinson (who’s playing someone who goes through a male-to-female transformation in middle age) and Jessica Lange, but his character is kind of a sad sack (he was cast very much against type) and he plays him so well I was cringing through most of his scenes. A bittersweet viewing experience for a fan. Good movie, though.

It needs dinosaurs.

I was struck by the extremely weak, limited effect of the alien attack in the trailer. Cowboys are riding o n horses and the aliens cause a few, small, widely-spaced explosions that don’t appear to have defeated the cowboys. In fact, the few, small, widely-spaced explosions seem roughly consonant with light, horse-drawn artillery from the American Civil War – stuff that would have been well-known to cowboys.

Where’s the imagination when moviemakers portray advanced alien military technology? Right now we do much more destruction than was shown in that trailer. A modern military would probably drop a cluster munition on those galloping cowboys, shredding them and their horses for hundreds of feet in all directions, missing pretty much nobody. What would spacefaring weaponry do? Well, it’s characteristic of modern weaponry to rapidly put overwhelming physical destructive force against many targets at once, but the most notable trait of modern weapons is their great precision – not a lot of missing.

I realize they have to portray a scenario in which the humans have a fighting chance, but it’s so bizarre to see the effects of the “super weaponry” portrayed as worse than something the cowboys themselves would have considered old-fashioned. The alien attack in the trailer wouldn’t have deterred any Civil War soldier from either side…unless he was George B. McClellan, of course.

Probably because “we will defeat these al…”
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wouldn’t have made a compelling trailer, much less entire movie.

I don’t for one moment have any expectation that this will be a good movie, just like I never for one moment had any expectation that Snakes on a Plane would be a good movie. Both movies, though, are the sort that doesn’t really need to be good, so long as they’re fun. Snakes lived up to that, and I expect Cowboys and Aliens will, too.

Exactly - I am hoping that this is the *right kind *of silly. Like a good Big Dumb Rock Song™ that comes on the radio when you need one.

Snakes on a Plane was intended to be a cheesy b-movie. This is an A-list movie, made on a $100,000,000 budget with A-list stars, made from an original with a wildly rabid fan base. It’s closer to something like Julia and Julie or maybe X-Men, one of the few superhero movies with big-name leads. Snakes on a Plane had a budget of $33,000,000 and a domestic gross of $34,000,000. I’m sure it made money in the aftermarket, but that’s generally considered to be a major flop. Cowboys and Aliens is way too expensive to be a cheesy cult movie. It has to be a global hit.

Dude, that’s the point of the criticism. If you set up a story whose entire premise is a failed one, you didnt do a very good joob at writing. You’re supposed to twist the story so the flaws are not glaringly obvious. It would be like doing a time travel story without ever giving any thoughts about time paradoxes.
You picked the wrong genre to tackle with if you dont understand its constraints.

I don’t know if that’s the case. This article describes how the comic was created solely as a foot-in-the-door for a movie deal, and that the creator rigged sales figures by getting stores to buy huge quantities of the comic and sell them for cheap or even for free.

This is literally all I know about the situation, so if there is indeed an actual rabid fan base, consider me schooled.

Actually even with the faked numbers, Cowboys and Aliens has never been considered a cult graphic novel. And certainly never had a “rabid fan base”. As for Fred Van lente, while he is definitely an interesting writer (part of that new trend that tries to inject back humor in comics, definitely something needed), but he is far far far from being a big name in comic books, a name that could generate a fan base.

ETA: and the whole concept of the series was clearly always intended as a “publish comics - get a movie deal” plot.

All I know is that I’ve heard much more love and anticipation for this film than for most of the others this summer. Harry excepted, of course. I’ve been hearing so much about it for so long that it got me to read it. That’s how huge it’s been.

And the cited article also says this:

And somebody decided to spend $100,000,000 on it. Nine figures is not b-list, no matter how you slice it. That somebody wants the money back.

They won’t be getting it from me. I’m just an interested observer from the sidelines.

Ok, so the world premiere is tonight at ComicCon. People are settling in waiting for it to start. Should be getting “Me first! ME FIRST!!” Twitter reviews in a couple of hours.

And you have no taste in movies. :wink:

Is that supposed to be a negative? 'Cuz here I’m pretty sure it’s a positive. :smiley:

I’ve explained it before: Space travel is expensive. Transporting fertilized eggs is far cheaper than transporting John Deere tractors. Terraformed planets will very possibly start out worked by horses, mules, and oxen.

I’ve seen tons of trailers for the movie, for months now; why do people think there’s been no advertising? Just because they didn’t invite critics to pan it first? Who cares about the critics?
I think that’s a question worth a whole new thread, actually…

Find your quiet place, accept it as it is (aliens and cowboys), and fuck the critics.

They don’t think that. The “no advertising” comments were part of the hijack about Attack the Block.

Holy cow, and I’m not even the first one to goof up like that.
Thank you for being gentle. :smack: