Talk about your queer subtexts–Gilgamesh is obviously hot for “wild man” Enkidu.
You’ve got it completely wrong. The ONLY reason the Big Mooseketeer was there was because someone at the Disney Factory realized it wouldn’t be a good idea to have a whole bunch of kids entrusted to one adult, all the time.
Roy was there to chaperone Jimmy.
(Not to disparage either of them – according to all the Mouseketeer memoirs I’ve ever seen, both Roy and Jimmie were above reproach.)
You want creepy premises? Just watch any anime billed as a romantic comedy.
“She’s a magical girl stuck to his right hand! Hur hur hur!”
“She’s a bikini-clad alien living out of his closet! Laugh and be amazed!”
“He’s a macho man turned into a sexy girl by a mischievous sprite! Sorry, boys, this one’s off-limits!”
“He’s an orphan whose five teachers all decide to be his mother! At the same time! Is that a riot or what?”
As Dave might say: I swear I am not making this up. And these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Um…there’s no subtext there. Gilgamesh and Enkidu clearly, uh, share mutual experiences.
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Also, when she was first introduced, she had dark hair. When she turned good, her hair immediately turned blonde.
Therefore Brunettes are tools of our white balding oppresssors. Excuse me while I break up with my really hot (but dark haired) girlfriend. THE SPY!! :mad:
I’ve never seen the show (I’m guessing it didn’t last more than a season) but I did see a brief snippet of it when I came across this preview of NBC’s 1965-66 season on YouTube. Given this is from the perspective of more than 40 years but this premise sounds especially reactionary and stupid today.
I know I going way off OT on this but is this true? I seem to recall there was an episode where Gilgamesh took Enkidu to see a “temple priestess” (i.e., prostitute).
“Tonight, in a very special episode of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh and Enkidu learn a valuable lesson about sexually transmitted diseases…”
I don’t have the first season at home right now so I can’t check the episode you refer to, but I remember it as an accident during a confused brawl. During the rift, they were fighting each other, not one of them smacking the other. As for the “every so often” incidents, I don’t remember them.
Not the whole sitcom (which I love), but the episode on The Dick Van Dyke Show where they have a new neighbor (single) whom they introduce to Sally and then Laura’s cousin–in an effort to play matchmaker…Turns out the guy used to beat up his wife (ha ha), so can’t commit to any other woman until his therapy (let’s make that parole) is through. And then Rob punches Laura in the arm, “just to say I love you”. Ick.
And what about Sally? And Herman Glimscher? That was mean spirited-why couldn’t she just have a career with a love interest? The men got to (well, I’m not sure Pickles was actually human…)
I always felt sorry for Carlton the DoorMan on Rhoda–he was an alcoholic. And what WAS with all those men Mary Richards dated? I always thought they looked like live Ken dolls…
I never liked Mama’s Family–not as a bit on The Carol Burnett Show or as a sitcom. If it was satire, it missed its mark for me.
Courtship of Eddy’s Father was odd, too. As was the Flying Nun–but that was more silly than creepy.
Eight is Enough was a bit creepy–all those kids, all the same age–mid-twenties and then 2 much younger ones. None of the kids had enough of a personality to stand out, but none of them were multiple births, either–I could never figure them out.
I agree with those upthread re Honeymooner’s, Happy Days, Urkel. I liked Seinfeld, though-the show was supposed to be about self-centered, entitled people.
One show I could never stand was Laverne and Shirley–why would anyone want Puggy and Squeek (or whatever their names were) anywhere near them? They were over the top losers-- not funny. But then, L & S weren’t funny either. Always desperate to get a man–ugh.
Father Knows Best was maybe not creepy (oh, yes it was) but the misogyny was rife: Princess or Kitten–look girls, you have choices!
You’re making this up.
You’re making it up!
Aren’t you?
Please say you’re making this up.
-FrL-
No, I wish I were. It was titled, “The Lady and Tiger and the Lawyer”; episode #0079.
(is now the time to say that I actually own a book about the DVD show?)
I remember this show! It was rather clever…large puppets or something, right? Is it on DVD?
With Xena, it was always a little sketchy what were her accidents and what was the product of her character. The incident in the first season, if not specifically purposeful, established that Gabrielle was in danger just being around Xena, especially if the latter reverted to her former ways (as nearly happened in “The Price” and arguably a few other episodes). I may have misremembered some “every so often” incidents; I can’t recall specific happenings of abuse, but it was often something “on the verge,” especially in the earlier seasons. The threat was there, even if it was not made manifest.
I do remember that, during “the rift,” after the kids died, Xena came after Gabrielle, not the other way around, and she propelled the hostility and harm (including the infamous GabDrag). Gabrielle had just walked away and gone off with her Amazon buddies. In fact, I don’t remember any time when Gabrielle even tried to rough up Xena.
Regarding Gilgamesh: I do remember that Enkidu was tamed–‘sivilized,’ as Huck Finn might say–by fucking the temple priestess. That was explicit. Whatever Big G and Enkidu did during their friendship, beyond hunting or hanging out, remained quite subtextual. And then he died soon enough, so there wasn’t much chance for anything long term anyway.
About The Honeymooners, it seemed to me that Alice never seemed concered about Ralph’s threats. She would just roll her eyes and give a kind of “wave off” with her hand.
She also seemed to be a smart enough tack to be able to hold up her end of the verbal arguments with Ralph.
Actually, mostly actors in dinosaur suits, with some animatronic puppets, IIRC. The first two seasons are already out, as a single set. The last two seasons are coming out May 1.
Yes, I have the first set…which includes a behind-the-scenes features on the making of the show, and a look at the original drawings.
Man, this is awesome, soon my ENTIRE CHILDHOOD will be out on DVD. Well, once they put Exo Squad, Wing Comander Academy, and BattleTech on DVD.
Yeah, I’ll go ahead and read a book while I wait on those.
I think the next show I plan to buy on DVD (well, the next one I plan to buy at the moment, my attention span expires sooner than I get my paychecks) is Tale Spin. Loved that show.
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“Enkidu”? Dat ain’t a mythic memory of pre-civilized humanity, dat’s a song! “Enk, Edink Edu . . .”
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BTW, Xena fans should dig this filk by Tom Smith.
Heh - only if they wrote “PHUQUE” on the wall as well.
Actually, the Married With Children episode where the girl is gagged and tied up - the girl had certainly Done Bud Wrong, but IIRC it was Kelly who arranged for the final revenge in that scene, and without consulting with her brother. A heartwarming episode of family solidarity, in its own sick, twisted way.
Actually that sort of thing wasn’t that uncommon on MWC. One time, some guy had Done Kelly Wrong. Bud, who had just had a grand old time with a girl who turned out to have measles, deliberately kissed the evildoer on the mouth to give him measles. Al even occasionally tried to be nice to Peg. Was the show wholesome? No, of course not. But it wasn’t totally awful either.
The show that to this day bugs me is Bewitched (as others have said). There’s this woman who is something special. Only she denies her past so she can get Darren to marry her (IIRC, she unveils the truth on their wedding night). Dishonest much? And of course there’s the manipulative way Darren tries to crush and suppress an important part of her nature once he knows about it - he’s ashamed of it. Both of them should have been turned into frogs.