"Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin killed by stingray -

Was he diving when this happened? Or just snorkel? I am surprised that a stingray could pierce the breast bone and hit the heart. But there have been confirmed deaths. Perhaps he was allergic.

I assume he was free diving. Rays don’t go very deep IIR, and a SCUBA BC would have likely been very hard to penetrate.

Once in Texas, camping on the beach, I did a bit of swimming in the sandy water. Took me a take or two to figure out what it was that was swimming with me. I had kicked up a bunch of rays, and decided that that swimming would be a very, very bad idea that day.

Not too many people can press the envelope, and continue to always walk away.

Happy trails Steve.

Here are some of Steve’s thoughts on his purpose on earth:

Exerpted from an interview here:

:frowning:

Sailboat

A very small consolation: Bob will have hundreds of hours of video of his dad to watch while growing up. It’s not a replacement for having Steve in his son’s life, I know, but it will help show Bob how much the rest of the world loved his father. It may inspire him to carry on his dad’s work, even if he doesn’t get as extreme as his dad was, but does his work behind the scenes.

Mrs jjimm just speculated on whether Elton John will be re-recording Crocodile Rock for the memorial service…
Sorry.

Seriously, though, I thought the guy was very irritating on TV, but the stuff he did in the background was astounding. I really regret not visiting his zoo when I was in Brisbane last year.

I had to surpress the urge to kill a little while ago when someone tried to post (it’s moderated, so I didn’t let it through) Steve’s death in the LiveJournal “Mock the Stupid” community, citing it as “hilarious”.

Not to quote myself (I mean, how gauche) but yikes! There is footage of the stingray attack!

Would it be tacky for Sting to speak at the funeral?

Here is a link to a youtube video of an interview with Steve’s Director who was on the boat when he was killed. Apparently, the stingray was buried in the sand, Steve mght not have even seen it before it killed him. He was showing off coral reefs when he was killed.

For those who doubt Steve’s love for animals, here is a video of Steve crying over the loss of a croc he cared for deeply.

From this article

I hope his wife has the heart to carry on his legacy. I remember seeing a documentary about their honeymoon…he filmed their trip to the Outback, and Terri had to tear leaves off bushes for toilet paper.

Fuuuuck . . . he was filming a program called “The Ocean’s Deadliest”.

He died ljust like he lived. Way too close to dangerous animals.

Not to be callous, but we’ve just had the most conclusive proof possible that he didn’t know his stuff. People who know and practice safety with regards to wild animals don’t get killed by wild animals. Show me a wild animal handler who died peacefully in his sleep at age 83, and I’ll grant that maybe he knew his stuff. Show me a wild animal handler who died from an attack by a wild animal, though, and I just can’t say that.

Don’t get me wrong, I do think that Irwin’s death is a tragedy, just as I think the death of any person is a tragedy. In fact, it’s perhaps even more tragic, for being an avoidable tragedy. Hopefully, we can learn from this, so that others might avoid the same tragedy in the future.

Not that it matters, but it was his son.

I still liked him. He was fearless. It’s a sad day. :frowning:

Again, this was a freak accident. He wasn’t even handling the stingray.

Rob Bredl, Mark O’Shea, Jeff Corwin, Austin Stevens are all well-educated and highly experienced herpetologists and they’ve all been bitten by dangerous animals at one time or another. Does this mean they should never have gotten into their field of work? Does it mean they are bumbling idiots who couldn’t properly handle a daddy-longlegs? Or does it perhaps mean that their work is dangerous and they take calculated risks and, overwhelmingly, beat the odds due to their exceptional knowledge and skill?

I used to watch Crocodile Hunter when I was little, and it was always enjoyable. I can remember one episode when Steve was bitten by a snake and was searching through a book by flashlight to see if the snake was poisonous or not, which it wasn’t. I always hoped he would continue to be lucky, because his show was entertaining and he and his wife showed true concern for the animals. “Terrified creatures”? He didn’t harm the animals he disturbed, and I sincerely doubt they were emotionally traumatized from a few minutes of handling. Steve Irwin helped spead awareness about conservation and the destruction of habitat, and he will be missed.

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I think this is an overstatement. Any person who engages in any inherently dangerous activity, be it skydiving or croc hunting or working with explosives, can practice all the safety and good sense in the world, but the reality is that they will never be able to 100% defuse the inherent danger in the activity. No matter how safe you are, the activity is still dangerous. There are freak occurrences that, even if they can be planned for, cannot be predicted to occur or avoided if they do occur. And that’s the risk you take if you engage in that activity. I think Steve Irwin understood that risk and ran that risk, but I don’t think the fact that he ultimately lost that gamble means he wasn’t “good enough” to do the work he did. At some level, the high level of danger means working in the field at all is a crap shoot. And the croc hunter that dies in his bed at 83 may not have been “better” than this one, only luckier.

From the audio of the guy who was there, it seems that Steve was showing coral and such, and swam over a ray that was buried in the sand. He didn’t even know it was there. It had nothing to do with “knowing his stuff” it was just a freak accident.

That’s like saying that a professional driver, who is the best driver in the world, didn’t know his stuff because he was killed by being T-boned by a car that came out of nowhere and that he didn’t see. Sometimes it doesn’t matter how much you know.

I liked his work; it was fun.

I abhor the impulse in human beings to attack the fallen on the occassion of their death. Lots of people whom I felt were lacking in one area ior another have died over the years. the appropriate resposne on such occassions is silence, unless one can muster sufficient human compassion to express honest sorrow at a man’s death.

There s plenty of time to hurl your little barbs at his memory later.

Steve IrwThe Crocodile Hunter was a TV show. Steve Irwin is dead. May his family find some solace in the memories of his life and the knowledge that he touched many with his passion for teh natural world.

And Dale Earnhardt had no idea how to drive a car either, right? :dubious:

Told my son about it today. He’s sad about it, but generally OK with it. He said “We still have the movie, and there’s still the show, right? So it’s not like he’s really gone, right?”

I’m sure my kid’s not the only one Irwin inspired to learn about animals, and by extension, that learning could be fun.

One of the bizarre things about this accident - by a guy who handled crocodiles and poisonous snakes, etc. - is that stingrays are not generally considered to be that dangerous by divers. In fact there are several places in the Caribbean where divers are taken by guides to areas where there are lots of stingrays to swim and play with them. There’s a famous place in Tobago and an area called “Stingray City” off Grand Cayman Island.