Pardon me, but WillF is not the arbiter of who is the most anti-war candidate. I disagree with you. Disagreeing with WillF does not make someone delusional.
No I’d like to see someone take down Trump and institute a more peaceful foreign policy.
I didn’t switch parties.
It’s like pulling teeth to get Sanders and Warren to say something antiwar. Either they are too caught up with frivolous stuff, or they think it won’t play in the primary.
Bernie’s topline on the foreign-policy section of his website: “Together, as the forces of militarism have kept us engaged in unending wars, we have stood arm-in-arm to fight back. We’re not going to invest in never-ending wars.”
Also: “Allow Congress to reassert its Constitutional role in warmaking, so that no president can wage unauthorized and unconstitutional interventions overseas.”
“Follow the American people, who do not want endless war.”
Warren’s foreign policy topline: “From endless wars that strain military families to trade policies that crush our middle class, Washington’s foreign policy today serves the wealthy and well-connected at the expense of everyone else.”
Also: “A strong military should act as a deterrent so that most of the time, we won’t have to use it. We must continue to be vigilant about the threat of terrorism, but it’s time to bring our troops home – and make sure they get support and benefits they’ve earned.”
And “That means cutting our bloated defense budget and ending the stranglehold of defense contractors on our military policy.”
Took me all of 30 seconds. Doesn’t seem like pulling teeth to me – seems like the focus of their foreign policy is opposition to the forever war.
Yes they have sections on their websites. Real Kucinichians they are.
So who would you prefer, WillF – a thoroughly anti-war progressive like Warren or Sanders, or the incompetent, erratic, alternately pro-and-anti-war president we currently have, if that’s what the general election comes down to?
The problem I have with Gabbard is that she is being dishonest about leaving the cult she grew up in. This suggests she is still in thrall of a nut, which is a bad trait in a president.
What cult?
Some offshoot of the Hari Krishnas. Weird stuff.
eta: More here. It’s called The Science of Identity Foundation.
And is there any evidence that she still follows this cult?
From the first article I linked:
Bolding mine. That’s all I’ve found. She may be dodging the issue because she doesn’t want to alienate her family, like the second link I posted suggests. Or she might still be in the cult. Here’s the video.
The only crossover appeal she has is to nutjobs that constantly want to vote against ‘the system.’ Those people will never push the D button at the ballot box. They’ll always find some unicorn such as Gabbard, Ron Paul, Yang, Jill Stein, or Gary Johnson.
I just hope like hell useless Gabbard doesn’t run third party to play the spoiler.
@Czarcasm, steronz: And a little earlier in the same article:
For what it’s worth.
Big thanks to y’all for the info. It now seems to me that a person on the right might want her to win the Democratic Primary because she already comes equipped with a self-destruct button as far as bad PR is concerned.
No and yes, because Trump’s opponent will need to get a few center voters to change their votes. Are progressives going to stay home and let Trump win because their nominee isn’t far enough left?
Exactly. Getting support from, say, 2% of Democrats and 1% of Republicans who are basically the crackpots of either party doesn’t encompass “crossover support.” That’s literally the definition of “fringe support.”
FFS, Donald Trump has more crossover support than Gabbard. Anyone who thinks Gabbard can beat Trump has no business contributing on matters of American politics.
Anyone who would see a reduction in personal affluence if the wars ended should be ignored by society completely. Unfortunately, our society is infested with them. That’s why Gabbard is slandered by so many near DC.
So you are among those who think the best crossover support is on the basis of warmongering and mass imprisonment. I don’t think this is where the Dem party is moving fortunately.
As for the religious bigots, thank you for contributions. Perhaps you were also among those blessed with the hidden knowledge of the sooper secret Mooslim Obama.
You’re right, Trump didn’t win running against a rigged system and Sanders gets no support either. We are living the Dream in Clinton’s USA.
Sounds like a good idea.
So who would you prefer, WillF – a thoroughly anti-war progressive like Warren or Sanders, or the incompetent, erratic, alternately pro-and-anti-war president we currently have, if that’s what the general election comes down to?
I’d take either over Trump and pray Mitch McConnell held the senate. Not a hard question.