Yes, which is what makes it a little more painful. Paraphrased due to memory, the conversation goes like this:
“Marty! You have to come with me to 2015!”
“Hey, Doc, cool, but I was going to head up to the lake with Jennifer.”
“Well bring her along! This concerns her too!”
“What are you saying, Doc?”
“It’s your kids, Marty! Something’s got to be done about your kids!”
And Doc bundles them both into the DeLorean and they go blasting off, ending the first movie. In the second movie, Doc reveals that he didn’t really want Jennifer along, but he had to do something because there was so little time to spare. (Or she saw the DeLorean appear, or something, but I recall it as a time issue, which is rather the problem here.)
Oh, no. You mentioned that foul loathsome excuse for the senseless slaughter of perfectly innocent trees “Mission: Earth”! Foaming at the mouth…head beginning to rotate…SOMEONE TASE ME!!!
He knew. He left his foster family and went to Delphi, where he got the exact same prophecy his real parents had. He didn’t know his foster family wasn’t his real family, so he left them to be sure the prophecy couldn’t come true. Then he met his real father (a complete stranger to him) at a crossroads, killed him, answered the Sphinx’s riddle, married Jocasta, and the rest is tragedy.
It made perfect sense to me. Steve was an asshole, but he was an asshole they had been trapped with for a period of time. IMO, they naturally assumed that a bond had been formed between them due to circumstances. Plus, common sense would dictate that even if you were a narcissistic douchebag you’d want people you’re allied with to stay alive because it’d increase your chances of staying alive.
So basically, they didn’t realize that Steve was a complete narcissistic douchebag lacking common sense.
Fanwank explanation: Doc figured out that Marty got Jennifer pregnant during the weekend at the lake, which caused huge problems for them later in life. By rushing Marty and Jen off to the future, he disrupts that disastrous timeline, but then has to play it by ear in coping with the relatively more mundane problems of the revised timeline, though that in turn had its own major complications.
Yes, thats a symptom of the Gilligan/ Doctor Smith Syndrome. People don’t seem to realize that this person that has never shown that he or she has common sense, good judgment or brains (Gilligan) but has demonstrated that they are selfish, don’t actually give a rats ass about you, and will do as little as possible to help survive in a dangerous place or situation (Dr. Smith) will most likely turn on you if given the chance.
Now seriously, I may not have killed Steve before the door thing, but after it…come on…it’d be clobbering time. He basically left them out to die for no good reason except that he’s an idiot. . Maybe its just me, then. But you see, I would have insisted that Steve come with us and left someone else to guard the door. Because I’d figure Steve would man up a bit if he were in a position of direct danger. Then his best interest is to help us all stay alive. I’d never leave him unattended in a position where he can basically lock a door on me.
But I see your point. I think anoyther stupid move was the gang banger guy that tried to keep his zombie and wife baby in their little room? Maybe you could say he lost his mind, but even crazy people know enough not to try to get near a dangerous, rabid dog.
I actually saw that in a Swedish movie(Nightwatch); guy cut his thumb off to get out of handcuffs. It’s also a movie where a killer politely asks his intended victim, “Have you ever been killed before?” That’s creepy.
Well, this thread is a perfect example of the complaint made in this other thread, about how these discussions in Cafe Society always seem to be dominated by science fiction or fantasy works.
With Star Trek, it’s like shooting tribbles in a barrel. How about every single episode where they send the ship’s top several officers down into an unknown environment? (Side note: since there’s no day or night in interstellar space, the ship had three shifts, which should have had an equal chance of being on duty when something happened. But it was always the same group. I’d like to see what duty was like for the other two shifts.)
How about Romeo and Juliet, by Bill Shackleford. (I might be wrong about that last name.) The priest, who’s been instrumental in this whole coma-inducing drug scheme, suddenly gets freaked and rushes out of the tomb without simply telling Romeo what the Hell’s going on. Result? Two dead kids.
Jocasta also had the Necklace of Harmonia, which made keep her youthful looks. Since she and Laius didn’t have any other children, Oedipus may not have had reason to suspect her real age, and perhaps was too polite to ask.
As long as we’re on the subject of queens of Thebes, I nominate Niobe. Artemis was violent enough that she had Actaeon ripped apart by dogs for accidentally seeing her naked. Apollo was no slouch in the archery department. Despite all this, Niobe decided to piss them off by claiming she was better than their mother, Leto, because she had more children. It shouldn’t have been too hard for her to anticipate what kind of punishment could result from that kind of boast.
Moving from myth to spurious stories in Herodotus, I nominate the people of Athens, for believing Peisistratus was in the company of Athena when all he did was dress up a really tall woman, bribe her family to keep quiet, and ride around with her in his chariot. I always picture Peisistratus reacting like Sheriff Bart did after a similarly preposterous ruse in Blazing Saddles: “Oooh, baby! You are so talented! …And they are so dumb!”
God knows the show Lost has plenty of stupid to go around, but a really standout moment was at the end of the third season, when Danielle gets a knife in her back courtesy of Locke. She falls down, and nobody checks to see if she’s alive or dead – including the top-flight spinal surgeon standing next to her.
It’s been about 23 years since I read Battlefield: Earth, but I’m pretty sure that they did not use human airplanes. I seem to recall that he was taught to fly Psychlo aircraft for Terl’s convenience (so he could ferry the gold himself).
Can I just nominate both Jurassic Park 2 and Jurassic Park 3 in their entirety? Granted, I’ve never seen them, but I don’t need to see them. Do you know why? Because when there’s an island full of horrible monsters that want to eat you, you don’t go back again and again. I mean, that’s just common sense.
Well, I don’t remember what happens in the second really, but in the third movie the only reason Grant and his hot apprentice go to the island is to save the kid of some idiot rich tourists who lost him when their plane went down over the island. And even then, they trick him to get him onto the island. Also, I think it’s actually a different island.
But that’s the thing–the crashed there because he was para-sailing so he could see the big monsters that would eat him!
I was looking up summaries to see if my understanding was correct, and I see that Grant’s “hot apprentice” is Alessandro Nivola. That guy’s so hot, he makes me sexist. Crap, I might have to watch the movie now.
Hey, I’m the smartest evilist Emporer ever, I’m so cool I’m going to turn my back on a man while I slowly kill his son right in front of him, what could possibly go wrong!
These people are a freighter crew who just watched their buddy die in a pretty gruesome manner. They’re forced to cobble together something from spare parts to defend themselves from a nasty predatory killing maching. It’s perfectly reasonable that they both froze up & Dallas wound up dead.
And as I remember it, Dallas was trying to move, he just picked the wrong direction. But even if he hesitates that’s understandable too. “One of these directions means certain death - which way do I go??”
There may be stupid moments in the film, but this isn’t one of them.