Cruise ships

Went on an Alaska cruise for a week on a Holland America ship. I recommend it for everyone. The wildlife viewing excursion was the best. The semisubmersible outing sounded way cool, but the views were not much other than seaweed and starfish. I signed up for a mountain biking trip but it was canceled due to lack of participation. I must have been the only person to sign up, because they went ahead with the glacier hike even though there were only three of us.

Never even had the urge to turn on the TV. There are so many fun activities and so much entertainment that we only used our ‘stateroom’ for sleeping and showering.

Something I wrote:

Cruising Can Be Amusing
or
You Had To Be There

Light switches of kind not seen before.
Some at far side, some at door.
Unfathomable interaction confuses user,
makes one feel like stupid loser.
Switch for bathroom is outside,
Designed by sadist to wound my pride.

Big fat bodies on this cruise!
I made video to amuse
Friends at home of normal girth
Who will watch with lively mirth
real-life versions of Homer Simpson
Porky Pig and Eric Cartman.

“Stateroom” is size of pickup camper,
no room for a kid to scamper.
No window to admit a breeze,
Barely room to expel a sneeze.
Door the width of a kitchen chair-
how do wide bodies get through there?

I like it. (Good username, too.)

For anyone who’s interesting in the subject, I recommend a longer, and perhaps even more humorous, treatise on the subject of cruising, A Supposedly Fun Thing I’ll Never Do Again, by David Foster Wallace[sup]1[/sup].

  1. Well known for his use of footnotes[sup]2[/sup].
  2. Like this one.

Isn’t free 24-hour room service still the norm for all cabins? Although I seem to remember that alcohol was the exception and you had to pay for that. I last went in 2005.

To anyone who wants to use a ship to travel from point A to point B, instead of just “cruising”, most or all of the cruise companies offer such itineraries. IOW you can find a “mediterranean cruise” that crosses the Atlantic first. The main difference is that you’d have to book one of the few sailings they’ll have during the year. It’s not like the old days when there was probably a ship departing New York for Europe every day.

The food is free 24-hours. The delivery is free until Midnight, then there’s a $3.95 per guest service charge. If you’re in a suite, the service charge is waived.

It is pretty expensive as well. Someone looking for a bargain-priced cruise is not going to do a transatlantic one. Also, not all cruise lines offer transatlantic service.

I am a big time cruiser and it is definitely my favorite way to travel. My wife and I book all our trips through mega discount websites such as vacationstogo.com and travelzoo.com and our rule of thumb is to get an inside cabin with no view and target $100/person/day for the cruise. In other words, we only book the one week cruise if it is $700/person or less. This upcoming year will be my 12th cruise. I have done Princess, Holland America, Celebrity, and Norwegian ships multiple times on each line. Each is upper middle class (4 and 5 star ships) with only Norwegian having ‘free style cruising’ (i.e. no formal nights). We have done the Eastern and Western Mediterranean, Baltic Region, Eastern Canada and the St. Lawrence, Mexico, the entire Caribbean, Central America, and Alaska to date. If you want dirt on any particular cruise, cruiseline, or port, I highly recommend checking it out on cruisecritic.com

We need very little room and only use the cabin for sleep and sex. Every other moment we are on the various decks, so why pay for an expensive cabin? Food is excellent, and they have healthy options, as well as a gym and plenty of other exercise options. As others have stated, this is a great way to see lots of locations without the headache of packing and unpacking. While this sucks for something like Spain, Turkey, Morocco, Germany, Russia, and other countries with may more than a day’s worth of stuff to see, it is PERFECT for places like Alaska and the Caribbean. Why? Because most of the cities in Alaska and islands in the Caribbean don’t offer much in the way of activities, so each individual town town/island really only has one day’s worth of activities anyway. Oh sure, you could do a different hike every day in say Juneau, but really? Why not do one in a different city each day? TV is limited to pre-programmed stuff, but increasingly, the ships have DVD players in the rooms and video rentals in the library with very large collections. With e-mail and phone calls, you can do them from the ship, but connectivity is slow and expensive. We did all our calls and e-mails from ports. Internet cafes are everywhere, even in 3rd world countries, and I always manage to find an open wireless network anyway. Another added bonus of the ship is that it serves as a ‘home base’ for your travels. You always leave your passport and valuable onboard safely and just need your cruise ID card to get back on, even in foreign countries. Even if you get pick pocketed and lose everything (which I have seen happen in multiple stops), the cruise has excellent support and will still get you back on and help you. That’s particularly useful in countries like Italy and Columbia which are notorious for this crap.

As far as the bad things go, you will only get a small taste of a given port, drinks are expensive, and some of the tours are a rip off. The first won’t affect you in Alaska, but if you are a heavy drinker, my best advice is to ‘buy in advance’. They will have prepaid limited cocktail, limited wine, and unlimited soda cards they will offer you the first day of the cruise for an outrageous price, but they are well worth it versus buying them individually. Only water, ice tea, hot tea and coffee, and juice (in the mornings) are free. I should also add that you cannot ‘sneak on’ liquor in the ports, which many people try to do as they will x-ray your bags when you return and confiscate any liquor until the last day when they will give it back to you. The only way around this I have seen is if you bring a water bottle back with you that is filled with liquid, they let you keep that. Is it water, vodka, or tequila you have in there? Only you know the answer to that…Almost every port on the cruise will offer the same tours for 50% of the price (or even less) at the dock that the cruise ship offers onboard. A classic Alaska ripoff is in Juneau where they will charge you upwards of $50 to go on a ‘tour’ that takes you to the Mendenhall Glacier. Meanwhile, if you step off the cruise ship, there will be buses leaving every 15 minutes for the glacier everywhere you look that will cost you $10 or less. The only exception I have seen to this rule is for trips where there is a considerable distance between the ship and the site. For example, if you ever take a cruise that stops in Egypt, it will stop in Alexandria and it will be a 3 hour bus ride each way to Cairo to see the pyramids. I would not recommend trying to do that one on your own. Likewise, if you want to see the Alhambra in Southern Spain, that requires advanced reservations that must be made by the ship. Also, if you ever go anywhere where you want to dive, that will always be substantially cheaper, and arguably better to do through a local dive shop. This is especially the case if you ever go to Bermuda or the Caribbean. Even in truly awful countries like St. Lucia, I have found the diving equipment rentals and shops to be top notch.

In 1980 we did a NY to Cherbourg cruise (we got off there since we were going to Austria) on the QE2. I don’t remember the price, but it was reasonable, especially since it came with a flight home. I was a grad student at the time, so I wasn’t able to afford anything not reasonable. When we were looking at our last cruise, we found repositioning cruises were quite reasonably priced.

Hint if you go transatlantic - go West instead of East as we did. You get an extra hour a night instead of losing one.

We’ve been on four cruises - transatlantic, southern Caribbean, Alaska, and Mediterranean. Onomatopoeia and Yarster have it.

Think of a cruise as a sampling menu and not a four course dinner of a restaurant’s best dishes. It is best in showing you if you want to go back to a place again. Cairo, never, Turkey, yes. You don’t have to shlep bags all over, and transportation between stops is a lot more fun than plane or even train.

You can get bargains, depending on conditions and how late you are willing to go. During the bubble we splurged on Alaska, with a fancy hotel stay in Vancouver and the works. On the other hand, my wife, daughter and I did a 12 day Mediterranean cruise for about $100 a person a day.

There are many cruise review sites, but beware of some. There seem to be a few people who know just the perfect guide in Egypt who will take them inside the pyramids for one tenth the tour cost. On the other hand, we learned how to get into Rome and Athens on our own, which saved a bunch of money.

BTW, the trend seems to be specialty restaurants on board which charge a fee, as well as the standard ones which are no additional cost. We looked at the menus of the specialty ones, but they didn’t seem any more interesting than restaurants a few miles from where we live. The regular one was fine - more than fine, really. And yes, there are light dinners if you want them.

It is not the same experience as exploring a city in depth, but it is fun.

My advice is to take anything you read on Cruise Critic with a grain of salt, especially the boards, which are full of fanboys and cruise line apologists. Most criticism, no matter how valid, is often dismissed by members, sometimes devolving into personal attacks against those who express less than stellar experiences. Also, if a criticism seems to be growing in concert, the board moderators have no problem with removing posts, or deleting entire threads. There’s good information there, no doubt, but much of what’s not great about cruising is brushed under the rug.

This point can’t be made enough. The cruise lines make a ton of money on excursions, most of which, if you took a little time on your own before the cruise, you could arrange yourself for much, much, much less. I don’t know if I will ever cruise again, but if I do, I know I will never pay the cruise line’s ridiculous excursion rates. Another negative about excursions, at least I consider it so, is you’re stuck with a group; you move when the group moves. When you go out on your own, on the other hand, your time is your own as well; the excursion starts and ends when you’re ready. Imagine going to an aquarium, seeing everything there is to see, yet having to wait another 45 minutes until the rest of your group is assembled for the next leg of your excursion. Painful doesn’t even begin to describe it.

Yep, cruise ships offering specialty restaurants is a newer and growing trend. Why? Because they charge you to eat there. Yes, they call it a cover charge, but it’s sometimes up to $20 per person, not including tip. The food is marginally better than the main dining room, and much better than the buffet. It would have to be to justify the charge but, in my opinion, it’s not really worth it. You could easily spend up to $100 for four people. It’s an experience to try it once, I guess, but there’s no real reason to go back as you receive the same level of service in the main dining room, for the most part, and the food there is free.

When we took our Alaska criusetour, we deliberately turned our cellphones off while on board (turning them back on while we were on land in port to get our messages) just to ensure we wouldn’t get hit with those charges.

We tend to do just the opposite, getting a nice, (sort of) wide outside cabin with a full balcony. We only go on big vacations about once every five years or so, so spending extra buck for the balcony when we do seems right to us.

However, I should point out to anyone who is trying to decide what kind of cabin to get that once you’re outside of the cabin we’ve never run into a situation where the cruise crew treats you any differently based on the type of cabin you have. It’s not like you wear dogtags stating “big spender with large cabin” on you.

For those of you who’ve been on an Alaskan cruise; inside cabin or outside? I know an outside cabin will get you fantastic views (& even a private balcony if you splurge), but the sun never really sets and you have to deal with 20+ hrs of daylight. How bad is it for those of us who need total darkness to sleep? Do cruise lines have blackout curtains on the windows? Or are you stuck having to wear an blindfold?

It all depends on what’s important to you. Some like the economy of an inside room. I can’t see it myself, but that’s just me. On my last cruise this Summer, I hosted a cabin crawl for approximately 30 passengers and got to see every type and size of cabin on the ship. It was an eye-opener. Some of the smallest cabins are not much larger than large walk-in closets with a smal bath. Cabin crawls are a lot of work to set up and manage, but it came off without a hitch and everyone had fun.

Actually, this is not really the case, at least on Royal Caribbean, and I suspect on other lines as well. It is obvious, all the way down to the key card, what type of guest you are, and you are treated accordingly. Key cards are, generally, grey in color. For suite guests they’re gold. If you’ve cruised before, you know that you can’t use real money aboard ship and need your key card for everything you do, from shopping, to entering events, in addition getting into your stateroom. On Oasis of the Seas, the world’s largest cruise ship, the elevator won’t even go to the floor with the skyloft suites unless you have a gold key card. Pool attendants usher gold card members to a special roped-off area of the pool deck, and do their best to keep non suite guests away. Suite guests also have special gifts brought to their rooms daily; plates of fruit and cheese, bottles of wine, bread baskets, etc… Suite guests also have access to a special concierge lounge 24-hours a day where they can relax, listen to music, watch TV, and chat with other suite guests, in a very comfortable environment hosted by the ship’s concierge and a few assistants whose sole job is to cater to you. This is all in addition to the priority access to most events, and invitations to events non suite guests are not invited to, and may not even know about, such as a special captain’s reception. Non suite guests may want to believe there is no difference in treatment, but this is simply not the case.

Here is a picture of my key card from my first cruise two years ago.

Having said all of this, however, many feel it is not worth the extra money and simply want a cruise vacation for as little as they can possibly pay. After all, someone paying $500 per person is really having the same vacation and seeing the same exotic locales as someone paying $2500 per person, even though the over all vacation experience may be different. Like I said, it just depends on what is important to you.

Hubby and I have been on 7 cruises. We don’t do the organized tours. We find a local as a tour guide, if we need one. We walk a distance from the cruise center, then find a local cabby. We tell him how much time we have and tell him to take us where he’d take his friends, visiting.
In Jamaca we visited places that no tourist gets to see, and we made a friend that we still write to.

The only time we had a problem, was in Hawaii when the driver was so stoned he got lost for a while.

Onomatopoeia, everyone gets free 24 hour room service on every cruise line we’ve used, including RCL.

As I stated, yes, everyone gets 24-hour room service, but non suite guests pay a delivery charge after midnight.

We were late night folk. We got cookies and milk every night at 2 am. Never paid a delivery fee on any of our 7 cruises. RCL had fewer up charges than some of the others.

If you still have records of your RCCL SeaPass account, I’m sure you’ll see the charges there for any orders placed after midnight.

I’ve been on two cruises, one of which was my honeymoon which was around the Mediterranean and was awesome. We hit Italy, Greece, Turkey, and Egypt and won $5,000 at Bingo. The food wasn’t as good on that one as on the first cruise we did (Caribbean), but it was still good and all inclusive.

We had an outside cabin on our Alaskan cruise ship and it had very effective blackout curtains. Then again, everywhere we stayed in Alaska and the Yukon had very effective blackout curtains.

Let me add my usual disclaimer. Cruising is one of the least environmentally-friendly vacations.

Write me off as a raving greenie if you like, but please consider the environment before deciding on taking a cruise. Even a cursory Google will bring up plenty of scary reports and stats on the unsustainable and highly polluting practices. I worked on a cruise ship for six months in 2005, and was horrified by the waste management, overt consumerism… rave, rave.

Waste food (and there is SO MUCH) is ground up and dumped in the sea. All trash is burned, including plastics, and ashes, yes, dumped in the sea.

Please, for the sake of our children’s planet, do not support this industry.