Cryptic comments in a Reagan speech

[EnochF]

OK, my uncle Jay, who is rather conspiracy-minded, related a story to me, and I’m skeptical, to say the least. But let’s just see if we can get some confirmation here.

According to him, he was watching the “1989 State of the Union speech” delivered by Ronald Reagan (OK, as it turns out, the '89 speech was delivered by Bush, and I told him that, and he said he might have been mistaken on the year, but at any rate he believes it was a State of the Union address by Reagan), and Reagan briefly made some cryptic comments about “structures on the moon,” including “domes and pyramids.” I’m quoting my uncle here, not the speech, which I’ve not been able to find anywhere. In fact, I’ve found transcripts of every Reagan State of the Union address, and there are only passing references to the moon, most of them involving the American triumph of the moon landing.

Now, Jay is a regular Art Bell listener, and he’s supposedly heard other people who heard the same supposed comments. In fact, he tells me that both he and my grandfather heard these comments and talked about them, and they were so amazed that such weird things had been said by the President on national TV that they immediately tried to find a transcript of the speech in the local paper. And of course, the conspiracy mindset takes hold here, as Jay asserts that “up until that time, the paper printed a complete transcript of the the State of the Union speech, but that year they stopped.”

Well, it seemed to me that a quick internet search could sort this out, because after all, the place is filled with conspiracy nuts. But for some reason, this particular conspiracy doesn’t seem to be well documented, and I’m beginning to wonder if maybe Jay imagined or dreamed the whole thing. There are some comments made by Reagan at a UN speech where he talked about perhaps if an alien menace were threatening the earth, it might serve to unite all of mankind. But as for “structures on the moon,” I haven’t found a single website devoted to exposing that particular conspiracy.

Does anybody else remember anything like this? At this point I’m not even going so far as to look for videotape evidence, I’m just trying to find out if anybody has even heard of this. Maybe it wasn’t a State of the Union speech, maybe it was something else…? If it happened, that is. (I have a hard time believing that Reagan made comments like this without the Democratic Party, or the press for that matter, making a very big deal about it.)

[Kendo]

A quick google came up with this:

In Reagan’s speech on December 4, 1985, he stated “if suddenly there was a threat to this world from Some other species from another planet, we’d forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries.” Soviet President Gorbachev publicly stated “At our meeting in Geneva, the U.S. President said that if the Earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials, the U.S. and Soviet Union would join forces to repel the invasion.” (Feb. 6. 1987 in Soviet Life)

(from: http://seekers.100megs6.com/UFOonMoon.htm)

It’s nothing like what your uncle asserts, but I can see how the above might get horribly exaggerated and twisted by way of Chinese Whispers.

[Nametag]

Did President Reagan give a clue at his speech at the 42nd session of the General General Assembly of the United Nations, on September 21, 1987, saying "in our obsessions with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget much unites the members of all humanity. Perhaps we need some OUTSIDE universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think that how quickly our differences world-wide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet I ask, “IS NOT AN ALIEN FORCE ALREADY AMONG US?”

http://www.geocities.com/area51/hollow/4354/moon_mars_large.htm

If he actually said this, it still doesn’t mean anything. I’ve seen Reagan use metaphors with my very own eyes. He did, I tell ya!

[evilhanz]

You should learn to immediately discount anything an Art Bell listener claims as fact. If an Art Bell listener says the sky is blue, you should look out the window anyway. Reagan said this during a speech at the 42nd session of the General General Assembly of the United Nations, on September 21, 1987:

in our obsessions with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget much unites the members of all humanity. Perhaps we need some OUTSIDE universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think that how quickly our differences world-wide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet I ask, “IS NOT AN ALIEN FORCE ALREADY AMONG US?”

OOoooooOH! Spooky aliens among us building pyramids and probing our anuses and Reagan knew it! Your uncle is a kook. Oh by the way, here’s a link to all of Reagan’s SOTU speeches:Portrait of Ronald Reagan I’m sure government agents have edited out all references to aliens and moon bases.

[EnochF]

Yeah, that’s the same thing I found in my internet search. I basically ran “Reagan” and “speech” and “moon” through Google and came up with that same link. It wasn’t helpful, from my perspective. I just mentioned it as a lead that went nowhere.

What I’m looking for is either, one, some confirmation of comments by Reagan about structures on the moon, or two, some confirmably false accusation made by a specific conspiracy nut about Reagan making such comments.

[toadspittle]

Ditto the above re: alien threat. It’s probably been conflated with the folloing bit of conspiracy lore, re: Apollo 11:

http://www.anomalous-images.com/astroufo.html#Aldrin

According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the Aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon.

According to hitherto un-confirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a “light” in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard.

According to a former NASA employee Otto Binder, unnamed radio hams with their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA’s broadcasting outlets picked up the following exchange:

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NASA:____ Whats there?_

_________ Mission Control calling Apollo 11…_

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Apollo11: These “Babies” are huge, Sir! Enormous!_

_________ OH MY GOD! You wouldn’t believe it!_

_________ I’m telling you there are other spacecraft out there,_

_________ Lined up on the far side of the crater edge!_

_________ They’re on the Moon watching us!
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A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.

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Professor:____ What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?_

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Armstrong:____ It was incredible, of course we had always known_

______________ there was a possibility, the fact is, we were_

______________ warned off!(by the Aliens). There was never any_

______________ question then of a space station or a moon city._

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Professor:____ How do you mean “warned off”?_

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Armstrong:____ I can’t go into details, except to say that their_

______________ ships were far superior to ours both in size and_

______________ technology - Boy, were they big!..and_ menacing!_

______________ No, there is no question of a space station._

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Professor:____ But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?_

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Armstrong:____ Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and_

______________ couldn’t risk panic on Earth. But it really was a_

______________ quick scoop and back again.
According to a Dr. Vladimir Azhazha:

“Neil Armstrong relayed the message to Mission Control that two large, mysterious objects were watching them after having landed near the moon module. But this message was never heard by the public – because NASA censored it.”

According to a Dr. Aleksandr Kasantsev, Buzz Aldrin took color movie film of the UFOs from inside the module, and continued filming them after he and Armstrong went outside.

Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the cover-up.

[Scott_Dickerson]

I’m sure that more than one person in the history of the planet has been named Otto Binder…

But for the record, Otto Binder was one-half (with his brother) of a well-known and highly-regarded sci-fi author of the 30’s and 40’s known as Eando Binder.

Otto himself was a regular writer for Superman comic books in the 1960’s. And I doubt he had anything to do with all this.

[plnnr]

Given that Alzheimer’s is a progressive disease, and that Reagan was more than likely suffering some ill effects long before he was diagnosed, I’m more surprised that there weren’t more cryptic comments in his speeches.