Customers who fly off the handle as a first reaction

I assume the worst with a couple of businesses based on past experience, and I act accordingly.

With a certain pizza business, my orders were usually botched, either with wrong ingredients or by being made at the wrong store location. Now, I immediately ask for a supervisor if the person taking my order has any difficulty taking my order. I have the choice of wasting time talking with the initial order taker and still usually have the order botched, or I can save time and actually receive what I order by having a supervisor take the order. My assuming the worst and acting accordingly now leads to my orders being properly handled.

With a certain telephone company, I no longer deal with the customer service reps, and instead call the president’s office, for the customer service reps are not capable of handling the account – six months of payments being credited to the wrong account despite repeated calls from me, account statements repeatedly being sent out weeks after the date of required payment, disconnection notices being sent despite my always paying in full on time and often being overpaid by many hundreds of dollars, my business’ name being listed in the wrong place in the phone book, absolute refusal to let me speak with someone more senior, and the telephone company’s accounts department not responding to email from the same company’s customer service reps. Now I bypass the inanity, and deal directly with the president’s office, where they get the job done. My assuming the worst and acting accordingly now leads to my account being properly handled.

The sad fact is that some businesses put perfectly good customers in impossible positions. It may be a consciously made corporate policy (e.g. the pizza company using government subsidized welfare drones to staff its centralized order system), or it may be a result of wonky home-grown organizational behavior (e.g. the phone company’s departments not being on speaking terms with each other). Whatever the reason, when a business screws up repeatedly, it behooves the customer to assume the worst and move on up the corporate chain as quickly as possible rather than dither about.

Unfortunately, when dealing with staff who refuse to pass me up the chain, I have found that using The Voice of God [sup]TM[/sup] is very effective. I don’t like it, but when patience and courtesy fails, unpleasantness can be very effective when trying to get past intransigent incompetents.

In short, if a business has a poor performance record with me, I will assume the worst, so the person dealing with me should be prepared to immediately pass me on up the corporate chain on my request, or be prepared to be made to feel very uncomfortable until my request is met. I will not waste my time.

But, Muffin, what you’re describing is not comparable to the complaint that Mighty_Girl has made - she’s complaining that first-time customers are going off on her, without ever making the a complaint in a calm, sensible manner. I will never fault you for making your complaint more energetic, when you’ve got the experience to say that a calm complaint doesn’t get satisfied at this business. You’re basing your tactic on experience, not just jumping off the handle.

IMNSHO, very differnt situation.

I only flew off the handle one time over the phone and one time in person and it was to the same company.

When I divorced my second husband I moved into an apartment right behind our house. (long story)

Anyway the building had four apartments in it. The phone company only listed the address as having one address and not four but they fixed that.

I called and switched my phone service from my old home to me new apartment. Once the service was turned on it was fine for a week or so. Then I got tons of static on the line. You could not make a call it was so bad and using the internet was impossible. I had dial up back then

I called the phone company who sent a man out to check the interior jack and I was told it was fine. They then had to send out a guy to check the exterior jack as the interior jack guy does not do that.

In the two days waiting for the exterior jack guy the line clears. No static at all. Exterior jack guy comes, checks jack and all is good.

A week goes by and the static is back. Call phone company again and they schedule a guy to come out in two days. In the mean time again no phone or computer. While waiting for third service guy the line again clears. Third service guy is a line guy and he checks the actual line. He finds no problems and all is right with the world.

A week goes by and the static is back. I again call the phone company and they schedule a guy to come out in two days. This time the static stays, the fourth service guy can hear the static. Finally it is confirmed that our household is not crazy, there really is static on the line.

The fourth service guy tells me that be believes it is in the connection to the pole. He can not do any service to the connection at the pole and needs to call a pole guy. Line guy calls it in and I have a pole guy scheduled to come in two days.

Pole guy comes and now I have no phone. No service, no dial tone, dead phone. I asked a neighbor and they confirmed a pole guy was on the street in front of my old house. A HAH!, I say. I check exterior jack on old house, guess what? A dial tone. The wonderful phone company has disconnected my phone and hooked it up back to my old address. How neat.

I call phone company again and at this point I am pretty upset. I told the customer service person that she can tell that I have had numerous problems. Every time I have called they confirmed using whatever magic they use that they did detect a problem on the line and now they have connected my phone line to a another house. Her answer was “she was sorry I was having so many problems in my life right now”

That is when I lost it. I screamed that the only problems I was having in my life right now was the shitty phone service that they refuse to give me any credit for, the fact I am paying for another service (internet) that I can not use because of their shitty service and to top it all off they connect my phone line to someone else’s house. (I guess I should have typed that in caps)

She apologies again and I tell her I want to speak to a supervisor. I get mister supervisor on the phone and the best he can do is get a pole guy out first thing in the morning to fix the mistake. Fine! I mean what the hell was I going to do anyway, climb up there myself.

So the next day comes and our phone is back on and you guessed it, we still have static. I call again and they schedule a line guy to come out. Now I have to say that this line guy was really nice. He could find no static because as you can tell it is like a ghost. It comes and goes with no warning or logical reason. He tells me he works in the area quite a lot and he gives me his cell phone. He tells me to personally call him if we get static.

Two or three days go by and woohooo there is static. I am actually happy about static at this point. I call line guy, he rushes over and it is gone. His best guess is that since the line is old that there is water in it and the wind is causing the water to move up and down the line causing the static. He gets a hold of anther line guy who is some type of expert in line problems and schedules him to come out on a Saturday.

Okay lets review:
1 interior jack guy
1 exterior jack guy
2(?) pole guys, not sure because I never met them so I can’t say if it was two different people or the same one
3 regular line guys

It is Saturday and expert line guy comes out. There is static. He can hear it. Thank goodness the static gods decided not to take the weekend off. He determine the static is coming from a loose wire in the INTERIOR JACK! Oh but he can’t fix it because he is not an interior jack guy. What?

I think that the the first and only time I have ever gone off on anyone in a service related industry. He started saying something about his supervisor and I screamed that I would talk to his supervisor personally if I had to but he was going to fix the jack. I screamed at him about how frustrating it has been to have this phone problem all this time and the first thing they checked was the interior jack and he said it was fine.

He did change the jack but only after I put on a fit. I did feel bad later and apologized several times. He turned out to be a really nice guy and he did understand that I was at my wits end.

I never had a problem with the phone line again and I lived there almost four years.

I think you have an interesting hypothesis there, but may I offer a dissenting view?

When I was a bank teller, I developed the ability to correctly guess a customer’s account balance merely by assessing his or her personality.

Nice, and a bit cowed? $43.77.

Very nice, and self-assured? $3,348,130.92.

Total asshole with sense of entitlement? $21,835.66.

Total complete utter prickface with HUGE sense of entitlement? ($7,345.32)

See, my reply? When a customer tries to get out of late fees by going, “But I’m a good customer”? I go: “All our customers are good customers. The *best *ones are the ones who pay their late fees.”

Thank you! I thought I wasn’t conveying my point very well.

Both customers in the OP were first-time customers. Both customers had exactly the same problem. Both customers received exactly the same explanation. Only one had a meltdown of apocalyptic proportions.

If you have been our customer I can assure you, your experience would not be bad. We do our job well the first time or compensate the customer on our own volition. We need our customers to come back.

One of the funniest cases I have is an old retired doctor who buys a lot of books from us, I gave him a fairly large gift coupon long ago and I am baffled that he refuses to use it. He apparently believes he’ll cause us to go bankrupt if he does. Cute old guy he is.

Today a customer who placed a large order paid US$89 in shipping when I offer free shipping at that level. I was tinkering with something in the backend and accidentally pulled off the offer. He didn’t notice, and didn’t even know about the offer. I sent him an email telling him I would not charge his card for the shipping. His reply? “Uncommonly decent of you, thanks.”

My reputation in what is a extremely small niche is not worth US$89, or the US$23 Customer Two assumed I was stealing from her. Now she won’t back down because she painted herself into a corner; few people who act like that have the courage to apologize when they are proven spectacularly wrong.