Cyclists.. evil bastards?

[Little_Pig]

@Mr.Miskatonic

I guess we won’t be hearing Melchior’s explanation as to why he thinks bikes should not be on the roads.

Now we just have to wait until Little Pig comes down off of whatever he’s been snorting.

Hey guys, I just like pulling your chain

[oft_wears_hats]

nm

[Little_Pig]

You know what really burns my ass about motorcyclists? Lane Splitting. Talk about throwing caution to the wind :smack:

[running_coach]

@Little_Pig

You know what really burns my ass about motorcyclists? Lane Splitting. Talk about throwing caution to the wind :smack:

Bicycles too slow, piss you off.
Motorcycles can get there faster than you, piss you off.
Got it.

[Little_Pig]

@Mr.Miskatonic

I guess we won’t be hearing Melchior’s explanation as to why he thinks bikes should not be on the roads.

Now we just have to wait until Little Pig comes down off of whatever he’s been snorting.

Melchior got banned 2-day. Banned because:

I guess he was being A Dick.

Post number 64.

• Little_Pig

[Little_Pig]

@running_coach

Bicycles too slow, piss you off.
Motorcycles can get there faster than you, piss you off.
Got it.

My experience at red lights is that they can come up on you from either side while you’re stopped. How often do you constantly monitor both of your side view mirrors while stopped? From an insurance perspective I’ve heard from a biker that if an accident occurs with a motorcyclist while the motorcyclist is lane-splitting, that by default, they are at fault. Anyone hear the same of differently?

[running_coach]

Good drivers monitor the overall traffic constantly.

[Little_Pig]

@running_coach

Bicycles too slow, piss you off.
Motorcycles can get there faster than you, piss you off.
Got it.

Neither pisses me off. I just hate having to pay to get my car washed. And those annoying dents that have to be pulled out.

[Little_Pig]

@running_coach

Good drivers monitor the overall traffic constantly.

Right. I just can’t wait for Google Glass to be released to the general public later this year.

[Little_Pig]

@Skywatcher

Let’s hire some married gay couples to take turns riding a tandem bicycle ahead of Melchior’s car.

Can only do in certain states.

[Namkcalb]

@Mr.Miskatonic

I would estimate a ridiculously huge percentage of drivers are talking into the cell phones, texting, or doing something else distracting with their technological toys.

Sometimes they browse the 'dope in traffic too

Exhibit A, note the present tense.

@Little_Pig

I’m driving home from work today and there is some widget-head, some dingle-ball, some half-baked cretin, bicyling in the center of the right hand lane. Traffic was backed up behind him, swerving to the left lane to avoid him, and this bufoon, this self-centered little twit in his fashionable spandex tights and matching colored helmut, keeps peddling down the road as if nothing was happening. I would have paid American Dollars to see him get creamed, and additional dollars to see him get run over, yet again.

[Little_Pig]

@Namkcalb

Sometimes they browse the 'dope in traffic too

Exhibit A, note the present tense.

Ah, no, I was not browsing the 'dope in traffic. Nice try though.

Again, I’ve heard from a biker that if an accident occurs with a motorcyclist while the motorcyclist is lane-splitting, that by default, they are at fault. Anyone hear the same or differently?

[Mr.Miskatonic]

@Little_Pig

Ah, no, I was not browsing the 'dope in traffic. Nice try though.

Again, I’ve heard from a biker that if an accident occurs with a motorcyclist while the motorcyclist is lane-splitting, that by default, they are at fault. Anyone hear the same or differently?

You don’t have wikipedia on your internet?

Another consideration is that lane splitting in the United States, even where legal, can possibly leave the rider legally responsible. In California, it is legal only if done safely: “‘Safely’ is always very much a judgment call. The mere fact that an accident happened while a rider was lane splitting is very strong evidence that on that occasion it wasn’t safe to do so…If you’ve been involved in an accident you will have a hard job convincing an insurance adjuster that the accident was not completely your fault.”

Conversely, however, if said lane splitting is ‘required’ by state law for bicycles (which is pretty much all the states) then a driver taking actions that causes an accident will be just as liable as if there was no lane splitting taking place. So if you drift into a cyclist on your right it is the same as if you changed lanes into another car. If you left hook a cyclist riding in a bike lane because you didn’t see them behind another car it is still your fault.

Furthermore, with motorcycles in stopped traffic the driver is not scott-free to do anything. Many is the driver in CA who thought it would be fun to fling open a door in front of a motorcyclist only to face charges.

[Mr.Miskatonic]

@Little_Pig

Ah, no, I was not browsing the 'dope in traffic. Nice try though.

We are still waiting for an explanation from you as to what exactly that cyclist was doing that was so illegal.

[running_coach]

Liability while lane splitting.

If an accident happens while a motorcycle is lane splitting, there’s a good chance that fault for the accident will be attributed to the motorcycle rider. If the insurance adjuster or court finds that the motorcyclist’s carelessness was a substantial cause of the accident, the rider is out of luck when it comes to recovering damages.

However, if the motorcycle rider can show that the other driver (presumably of a car or truck) contributed to the accident, the rider may be partially or fully compensated for her injuries and property damage. This may occur if the car that hit them was changing lanes or weaving, or if the driver was talking on the phone or otherwise not paying attention.

Since in California, it’s legal(not a grey area like before), it seems like it’s treated just like any other accident.

http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html

California releases new rules for motorcycle lane-splitting

[wguy123]

@running_coach

Liability while lane splitting.
Since in California, it’s legal(not a grey area like before), it seems like it’s treated just like any other accident.

http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html
California releases new rules for motorcycle lane-splitting

I wish lane splitting were legal in more states. I’ve ridden on the California “freeway” which is really a huge parking lot named I5. If it weren’t for lane-splitting I would have roasted to death at 5MPH. At first I was hesitant to lane split until I saw it could be done safer than I imagined and it gave cagers and trucks more room to squeeze into. YOU’RE WELCOME!!!

[delsina363]

I have not read the follow up questions to the OP’s question, I do not think I need to. Just recently, another bike rider was killed in Boston. My opinion: Unless you can do 55 miles per hour, stay off the street. There is nothing worse in life then getting stuck behind someone riding a bike on the street. If you wish to ride your bike, it is much safer to do it on sidewalks. Then when you see someone riding a bike in your lane, you have to literally watch them in case they are beside you when you are making a turn, etc.

If you cannot do 55 do not drive.

[wguy123]

@delsina363

Then when you see someone riding a bike in your lane, you have to literally watch them in case they are beside you when you are making a turn, etc.

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If you notice a car in your lane, don’t you also “literally” watch them? Or can you safely ignore the cars and other vehicles?

[running_coach]

@delsina363

I have not read the follow up questions to the OP’s question, I do not think I need to. Just recently, another bike rider was killed in Boston. My opinion: Unless you can do 55 miles per hour, stay off the street. There is nothing worse in life then getting stuck behind someone riding a bike on the street. If you wish to ride your bike, it is much safer to do it on sidewalks. Then when you see someone riding a bike in your lane, you have to literally watch them in case they are beside you when you are making a turn, etc.

If you cannot do 55 do not drive.

You drive 55 everywhere you go?? Some streets have a much lower speed limit.

And why are you making a turn when you know they’re beside you? And it’s awful you have to watch other traffic.

You do realize that a bike and pedestrians don’t mix on a sidewalk and a bike is less visible to drivers when he reaches a crossing.

[Mr.Miskatonic]

@delsina363

I have not read the follow up questions to the OP’s question, I do not think I need to. Just recently, another bike rider was killed in Boston.

Tens of thousands of drivers are killed every day.

My opinion: Unless you can do 55 miles per hour, stay off the street.

The speed limits on the streets around here are 25 and 35 mph. If you are driving 55 on them you are the problem.

Furthermore, the Boston cyclist you reference was killed by a Sanitation truck, not a vehicle known for getting up to speed.

There is nothing worse in life then getting stuck behind someone riding a bike on the street.

Nothing worse? You need to get your priorities in order.

If you wish to ride your bike, it is much safer to do it on sidewalks.

The fuck it is. Cycling on the sidewalk is far more dangerous for both pedestrians and cyclists.

Then when you see someone riding a bike in your lane, you have to literally watch them in case they are beside you when you are making a turn, etc.

Oh, I’m so sorry, are we cyclist forcing you to pay attention to your driving? Are you losing valuable texting time in the drivers seat when there is a cyclist around?

If you cannot do 55 do not drive.

How about you learn how to drive, then you can tell others what to do. It is apparent from your writings that you have no clue how to safely operate a motor vehicle.