The New York Times had this from the person living next door to the victim, “To get to Mr. Jean’s apartment, Officer Guyger would have had to walk past 15 to 20 apartments — many of which have distinct wreaths, doormats and trash cans, Ms. Kinsey [the next-door neighbor] said. Mr. Jean, for instance, had a red doormat outside his apartment.”
So she didn’t notice that the hall looked different? I’ll be honest; I’ve gotten off on the wrong floor of my apartment building once or twice, but as soon as I did, I noticed that the floor, walls and so forth looked different.
I’m seeing something on facebook that suggests this police officer dated Mr. Jean in the recent past. If that’s true, that would be an indication of something else going on. Maybe.
I do hope the truth is told and I hope the family receives justice.
How many seconds did she allow for the likely scared and confused person to move in a way that she felt was complying to her orders? Two seconds? Or did she give him a full five seconds before she blew him away? My point is that police “waiting for compliance before shooting” tends to be measured with the second hand of a stop watch and “not complying” tends to mean “moving in any way and also not moving at all.”
Bump-sure, everybody can occasionally “check out” mentally and go on autopilot from time to time when tired and doing doing mindless routine activities. Where I take issue is her extent of mindlessness, I simply don’t buy it as plausible without other as-of-yet unknown mitigating factors, such as being under the influence.
I’m not sure the implication intended by the several posts of the theme ‘nobody could really go into the wrong apartment and think it was theirs’. It’s not plausible to me the officer deliberately went to the wrong apartment, if that’s the suggestion, pending any evidence connecting her to the victim in a way that makes it plausible. She was drunk or on drugs, OK that seems possible.
On credibility, I am moderately but more 360 degree skeptical, of the police and the media (and/or crusading bloggers etc to the extent that’s the media). And I’d want to see solid evidence that a criminal proceeding has been corrupted, when one occurs which of course it hasn’t in this case.
And how long does it take for her to turn on the light switch (one of the articles I read gave that as the explanation for her not knowing she was not in her apartment)?
Will someone explain to me how parking on the wrong level causes the numbers on the elevator buttons to misalign themselves? It doesn’t matter what fucking floor she parks on-that isn’t going to change what button she pushes to get to her own floor.
Again, really? Have some imagination. As I said earlier, I didn’t mention the fact that Texas has castle doctrine legislation because I thought it was a valid legal defense if you are not actually inside your home. I mentioned it because it may have affected her state of mind - her inclination to shoot rather than retreat if she thought she was in her own home. Castle doctrine and stand your ground laws that reduce the obligation to retreat can have disastrous consequences.
There are buildings with attached parking garages where there’s a door from every floor of the garage to the corresponding floor of the building itself. So you can park on your own floor and go straight to your apartment (or office), no elevator required.
I think it’s pretty offensive to say “it’s a terrible tragedy for the victim and the officer” as though they are equally victims here. This was caused by the officer, through appalling negligence at the very least, and possibly worse. To call any subsequent prosecution, trial & punishment a “tragedy” on a par with her victim being dead is totally inappropriate. I mean, if you really think that subsequent punishment of the officer is also a tragedy - well the justice system is under our control, so that part could be avoided by not prosecuting her, right? I don’t call that part a tragedy, I call it “justice”.
Yes, intent does not require extensive prior planning. I don’t think it requires that she must have planned to kill him before she entered the apartment, for example. But it does require some time for ideation, to consider the consequences and reject alternatives. It would be almost impossible to prove unless there’s some more sinister aspect to this, that she didn’t enter accidentally.
