Pretty close, yes. They elected that young feller because they were sick of Bush, and because in the abtract, his plans were very enticing: all this, for free!
But when it came time to actually define who would pay for the free stuff, and people began to relaize that oh shit it was they themselves shouldering the load for their own care and a fraction of the freeloading parasites, then yes, they began to push back.
Do I reaaly need to cite Obama’s rapidly bottoming-out approval numbers, the distinct gulf between November 2008 and now for Mr. Hope & Change?
So all that money those guys spent, that had nothing to do with it? All those contributions to “grass roots” organizations and lobbyists, just pissed it away, did they? I guess they must have thought it was a good idea at the time, huh? But it turns out, no effect.
Maybe those MBA guys oughta step aside, if they’re going to totally fuck up like that, spend a buttload of cash for nothing. I mean, really, could hippies do worse even if we just played hacky-sack all day and didn’t make bone-head decisions like that?
Obama was trapped into an expensive mess that Bush left him. he invested billions to get the banking repaired and theoretically working again. I have heard him address the deficit a few times and he actually has plans to deal with it. Bush, Cheney, and Reagan said "deficits don’t matter’. Why do people like Bricker develop blindness when it comes to spending. The repubs cut taxes and spend their brains out. This is somehow good. Clinton fixed the deficit. Bush deliberately fucked it up. Now Obama said he will deal with it again. Yet Bush said deficits don’t matter. That means the repubs have no standing to bitch about deficits. None, zero ,zip.
As a matter of fact. The health care ,if the repubs don’t fuck it up, will bring down the cost of medical care in America .
I think you may be experiencing a little wishful thinking here. Recent polls indicate that most Americans are still in favor of healthcare reform, even if they don’t think it should be the most important priority right now. 46% feel it should be a major priority but other problems should be addressed first, while 32% feel that even in the current crisis it should be the top priority. That’s over three-quarters of Americans who still think healthcare reform is very important.
The teabagger types are going to continue pushing against healthcare reform as loudly as they can, but there’s no evidence to suggest that they’ll get anything like a majority of Americans to agree with them. By all the opinion trends we’ve seen over the last several years, it seems safe to conclude that some form of UHC is definitely coming at some point. Most people hate the uncertainty and instability of the present system worse than they hate the idea of being roped in to help support a few “freeloading parasites” (who but for the grace of God could easily be them someday).
If we do not improve our health system in ways that deliver relevant care to more, if not all, citizens, then I must ask: Exactly what, then, do we do with the proles? Let them lie down and croak? I sense moral hazard down this path.
Awe come on now Bricker ya know ya really what to talk about all that hopey changey stuff now donchya? Ya don’t need to keep goin’ on with all the ivory tower syntax. Talk to the peoples like they wants to hear it.
According to your cite, “the majority of Americans (55%) favor Congress’ putting the brakes on its current healthcare reform efforts and considering alternatives that can obtain more Republican support.” So, okay, yeah, ‘healthcare reform’, sure, but (a) not the stuff the Dems are currently pushing; instead, they want (b) the stuff that would obtain Republican support.
Now, I could name a number of alternatives that Republicans have talked about supporting; they’ve mentioned dropping interstate barriers to competition among insurers, so that it’s more like Geico versus Progressive versus Allstate versus Nationwide versus Esurance versus State Farm versus USAA all competing to insure my car. And they’ve said that coupling such an approach with tort reform could go a long way. And they’ve – well, they’ve said a lot of things, really, but keep railing against UHC in general and the plan a majority now wants to put the brakes on in particular.
And from that, you extrapolate this:
Why? That’s not one of the “alternatives that can obtain more Republican support.” What does your poll say?
Ooooo. There are always such great results to be had when God is introduced into policy. I’ve been reading up a little on Merovingian justice… did you know that 1500 years ago in France a legal dispute could be settled with a duel, as God would intervene in a duel to let the best man win? Actually Gibbon says it better digs… here’s a quote!
The question being: Are we barbarians ourselves, or not? I mean, besides Rand Rover.
And people wonder where the idea that fiscal conservatives hate the poor comes from.
That’s right Bricker. Everyone who has had their health insurance cancelled is a freeloading parasite. The person who works 12 hours a day at two jobs, neither of which has a health plan? Freeloading parasite.
That’s “Hopey-Changey”. Keep up with Sarah’s talking points, could ya? <wink>
But not to worry. The Republicans are determined to prevent change of any kind with obstructionist tactics. Good change, bad change - doesn’t matter. Obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. And they are doing a pretty good job of crushing any hope that people had. So. Success is at hand for you!
It’s fascinating how you want the country to fail, just because your “team” is not in power.
Hey EP, whether or not Bricker hates poor people has nothing to do with whether all fiscal conservatives hate poor people as an inherent part of their philosophy.
That’s why I would never say that I agree with the idea that all fiscal conservatives hate poor people. Just that I can understand how this over-generalization might form.
Just like, if someone called “Rand Rover” acts like a constant dick, people might just get the misconceptions that all Randians are constant dicks. Well, that might still be true.
