He doesn’t. He is a Libertaruan type who identifies himself as rich . He has little use for the poor who have not had his accomplishments. They are weak and do not deserve health care. The worst thing that could happen, is his taxes may go to helping the poor and disadvantaged. That would be a "violent 'act . He is Cartmanesque in his selfishness. He says ,my money, not your money. You can’t have it. If he is indeed rich, he has been getting tax breaks for a while. That is just fair and just. He deserves them. You do not.
Which I note you did not have the balls to reply to.
Canada weathered the recession better than the US. Canada’s unemployment rate is better than the US. Canada’s debt position is better than the US. Small business startup in Canada is not hampered by high private medical insurance costs.
Which all poked major holes in your theoretical assertion that Countries with UHC and other large government programs are right this very minute experiencing many of the long-term difficulties that are the results of big government.
In short- you were full of shit, and you were called on it.
You still don’t get it. You are conflating health and health care. The fact that countries withHC have healthier populations does not mean that UHC is better. One big (ahem) factor that makes the US less healthy is obesity, and that doesn’t mean US health care is worse.
A dim understanding of the relationship between health care and health is not a basis for rational policy.
Just because you think something doesn’t make it true.
Wrong–I didn’t have the stomach to reply to it. He picked one country, then picked some of the points I raised to respond to. And the actual responses are endlessly debatable (eg, measuring unemployment is difficult, so I’d have to spend more time than I want to to look closely at the number he quoted). And other of the responses just dismissed what I said out of hand with no discussion.
No, the “in short” takeaway is that liberal douches are being just as ideological and impractical as I am.
Correction: if Clothahump thinks it, there’s a 85% chance that it isn’t true.
The baffling part is why he thinks his selfishness is important. Okay, he doesn’t want to pay; so what? Has he done anything to deserve the consideration he thinks he deserves? Is there some reason we owe it to him to see that he’s happy? He might not want to pay more, but that doesn’t affect me. His income may go down, but that doesn’t affect me either so it’s not an issue.
The libertopian position is inherently hypocritical. “I want mine. Me, me, me. I don’t see why I should have to worry about other people. Now give me my way because I want you to.”
Well, no. I’d rather see sick Americans get health care and I don’t see why what Libertarians want would affect me or my opinion.
And the other 15% is random chance. He and RR are, as usual, creating their version of “fact” based on their ideology.
Translation: You’ve got nothing.
He can takeaway what he likes, as long as he goes.
As I’ve explained ad nauseum, you and that dumbass you quoted have got it all wrong. My beliefs are based on what I believe is the best way to run a government based on the best interests of al citizens. I’m sure that’s what your beliefs are based on as well.
We just have different opinions on what is in everyone’s best interests. Doesn’t mean I am selfish or evil or anything else that you like to call me to avoid having to actually consider the issues.
You really think you don’t do the same thing?
What does that mean? I just responded to his post. The post you quoted was “something.”. Quoting it and saying I “have nothing” is just idiotic.
Without ever comparing those beliefs to any form of reality, or even showing any interest in what actually happens when they’re tried or when other approaches are tried. You invent a “reality” that is derived instead solely from a bad novelist. That’s ideologuism.
Wrong, they’re derived from actual experience with the world outside our own bank accounts. There is one, you know.
Right. You can’t handle addressing the actual issues I raise, so you insult me and wish I would leave. And somehow I’m the one that’s selfish and evil.
Your post as quoted was not a substantive rebuttal to the facts as given. The facts are clear that countries with UHC are doing just fine economically, and this flies in the face of your supposition that they are not.
To summarize:
- You posted a theory that countries with UHC were doing poorly economically due to “big government”.
- Factual evidence was presented that shows that a country with UHC is doing just fine economically, in fact better than the US.
- You respond with “I didn’t have the stomach to reply”. “the points are debatable” (then debate them!) “I’d have to spend too much time looking up the facts”
Pathetic.
Yep, just keep insulting, maybe someone somewhere thinks you are making a point instead of just demonstrating that you are intellectually incapable of discussing the issues.
You filter your perception of reality through your own beliefs just as much as every other human on this planet does. The difference is that I’m honest about it whereas you make this bullshit claim to be considering “actual reality” or whatever, as if something like that actually existed.
But they can’t be, according to Randian “fuck y’all, I got mine and I’m better than you anyway” theory. Therefore they aren’t. So there. Lalalalala…
ETA: In the previous post, he admits reality doesn’t even exist for him anyway. That isn’t even ideologuism, it’s psychosis. Maybe we’re done here?
The only thing pathetic here is your summary.
Reality doesn’t exist for you either, chump. The only thing that exists is each person’s perception.