Blah blah blah. Do you honestly believe that your criticisms of people you don’t know are witty or have any sting at all? Honestly, do you sit back and think “I sure scored with that one!” because it’s rather sad and pathetic coming from someone who wants to tell us about how civilized and fantastic things used to be. If you are a product of those times, may I say a hearty HALLELUJAH! that they are gone.
My sincere condolences that you’ve outlived your glory days and have only the memories of your imaginary Utopia to keep you warm in your dwindling twilight years. Now kindly bugger off. If I wanted to hear about how things were when milk was a dollar a gallon, I’d visit some sweet senior citizen in a nursing home who has something of use to say.
Now, as none of this has anything to do with healthcare reform. Piss off.
Upheavals happened pretty often in American history. I recall a particular instance when half the country rebelled. It’s just that particular upheaval you’ve decided is the root of all evil in the US. And it only pisses you off. I repeat: subjective only begins to describe you.
For me, moving toward government-run healthcare is just another instance of the US getting better, on the same gradual path as the institution of libraries, the abolition of slavery, banking regulations, anti-trust law, civil liberties, blah blah blah. The US slowly keeps getting better in spite of the people who want to go backward.
Nope. Government-run health care (and I’m surprised you are willing to call it that) is a huge step backward. Large social programs are a huge trap that are hard to avoid in a democracy. We had managed to avoid a big part of that trap for some time, but Obama had to go against the will of the people to try to salvage his presidency.
It’s a huge step backward in your opinion. Why are large social programs a huge trap? What is the problem (other than poor you parting with a small amount of your money to help create a productive society)? Why haven’t these 'huge trap’s brought down Canada or Britain or anyone else?
Huh? Speaking of cognitive disonance, how does this work? He salvages his Presidency by defying the will of the majority? (Meaning the people who elected him?) Or his Presidency fails because he bows to the overwhelming will of the minority? WTF?!!?!?
Like most of the drivel coming from the conservative side, this is pure horse puckey.
They have “brought down” countries that have enacted them. Just look at the many articles lamenting the brain drain ferom countries with the huge tax rates necessary to support these programs.
Look at the polls. A majority opposed this health care reform bill, but Obama was clamoring to pass it anyway. This bill was not the will of the majority of Americans.
The overwhelming majority of Americans want health care reform with a public option. That is the only reason the polls are even close now; the bill that was passed was not liberal enough for the majority of Americans.
The majority of Americans (including me, to be frank) do not yet know in any great detail exactly what is, and isn’t, in this new law.
Most of them only know that they’ve heard a huge amount of fear mongering about it.
Some of us have learned that most of the fear mongering is based entirely on lies, and we discount it. More and more Americans will discover the same reality once the frenzy fades out of the news cycle.
To say that a majority of Americans oppose this law is partisan rhetoric at best, and a pure bullshit lie at worst.
Since when is required that the president govern according to the poll numbers? IIRC, Republicans mocked Clinton for paying attention to polls. Polls are not elections. You should know that, but appear to have forgotten.
[Costanza]“You know we’re living in a SOCIETY!”[/Costanza]
Now you want to look at polls? Right after the bill passed, approval for the bill jumped to 49% approve, 40% disprove. Yes, by all means let’s listen to the polls :rolleyes:
I’m fine with whatever methodology you want though. Polls, tea leaves, or shapes of clouds, no matter your sampling I’ve already got my hands in your wallet and am not letting go!
I’m a little leery of relying heavily on this argument, even though I alluded to it myself. Lefties railed about the whole “accountability moment” bullshit before, and to stand on it now is a gigantic double standard.
Even so, the polls don’t say what RR thinks they say.
I think he’s “proved” somewhere around here that Canada has self-destructed it’s economy over UHC and does not actually exist anymore as a viable country.
It had something to do with how Canada used to have high unemployment for a few years in the 80’s and 90’s and even though it’s currently lower than the unemployment rate in the US right now, that somehow doesn’t count.
What I honestly believe is that people like you have caused tremendous problems in this country that you refuse to face…or even to acknowlege…and that you choose instead to make fun of my age and pretend that it negates my arguments.
So when you whinge about 45,000 deaths a year from no health care (0.00015% of the population, btw) or the number of lives lost in Iraq, both of which absolutely pale in comparison to the deaths and ruined lives that have resulted from forty years of liberal social predominance, it rings hollow…somewhat like your skull.
And by the way, in the summertime I mow the lawns of my sister, my two neices and a sixty-seven year old single woman who lives across the street, all in one day and in as much as 110 degree heat. Think you could keep up, toots?
Brain drain has been massively overstated, at least in recent years - Canada attracts more educated people than it loses to the US, by far (cite). And while brain drain still occurs in Britain, it is overwhelmingly to other ‘liberal’ countries, like Canada and Australia (cite). It doesn’t look like social programs like UHC are ‘bringing down’ those countries.
Rammin’! Crammin’! Jammin’ it down de troat! (wooooo-type warbling noise…)
With apologies to the spirit of Bob Marely. Jah love, Bob.
Rammin’! Crammin’! Jammin’ it down de troat! (wooooo-type warbling noise…)
I mean, we tried reason, to no avail, so what the hell, I’m gonna just gloat. I’m not a very nice person. I have reliable testimony to that effect, plus some restraining orders, so…what the hell. Might as well get some negative juice out of it…
We be rammin’! Crammin’! Jammin’ it down de troat! (wooooo-type warbling noise…)
Please provide cites that show the exact number of people who have been killed or harmed by ‘liberal social predominance’. You don’t get to just make up your own statistics.
And mowing lawns is your big claim to being a tough guy? Ooooh, I’m impressed. Also, it sounds like your sister and neices are taking advantage of you. I guess they know an easy mark when they see one.
You keep talking about all these deaths and ruined lives caused by liberalism. Do you have a cite for any of these and how exactly they were caused? Was it toxic glue on the back of food stamps? What? Throw us a bone here.
I suspect it is simply another thing that exists inside your own head.
