Dancing on the grave of health care "reform"

Alas. I suppose it takes a young person like myself to appreciate the beauty and elegance of a good, stiff single-peaked preference profile.

Wow. And I thought calculus was gay.

MUST you trot out the teen pregnancy rate thing again? Didn’t we just do this? The one where we showed you that the teen pregnancy rate was higher in your “golden past”?

Then you backpedaled about how you meant “unwed teen pregnancy rate”. And ignored the weddings that took place 5 months before the birth…

But here you are trotting it this old chestnut again, pressed and cleaned and looking all shiny new…

Fact: Starving Artist is too stupid to learn.

There are no teen pregnancies, STDs, abortions, drug problems, crime or broken homes among conservatives? Really? If these things do in fact exist among conservatives, how is liberalism at fault, specifically?

Oh goody ! It’s time for a new episode of the **Starving **“Dang hippies ruined everything !” **Artist **Show !

I have never claimed to be an expert in economics (and I am sure no one would mistake me for one). But I know more about the debate over Keynesian economics than to say that it’s obvious that the government should “ramp up” (by how much?) spending temporarily (for how long?) before a looming depression (when does the period of looming begin exactly?).

I’m thinking it was right about the time that pensioners whose retirement funds had been gobbled up began applying for jobs as Wal-mart greeters.

Wow, what a devastating comeback. That’ll teach him. :rolleyes:

You may want to read this over, Chucklehead:

This has been pointed out to you numerous times before, but it doesn’t penetrate. Regardless, please, if you insist on having us all witness you wit, can you, you know, be witty? Even a little? Maybe get someone to help you if you have to…

Here’s the longer response I’ve been alluding to.

I don’t think it’s a “necessary tragedy” and I am not gleeful about it. It’s just something that happend. The person made certain choices and each of those choices had certain possible consequences. One of the possible consequences of not having health insurance is not receiving sufficient medical care.

I guess you characterize it as a “tragedy” because the government could have provided health insurance, which would have saved this person’s life. However, the government could do lots of things that would have lots of benefits for people. It doesn’t mean that the government should do that. For example, the government could provide for unemployment for 3 years at 90% of previous salary, as is provided in Denmark. I’m sure there are people that die because they get laid off and become homeless after their unemployment runs out. Do you think this is a necesary tragedy or are you gleeful about it? I suspect it’s neither. Or, think of all the wasted potential because some people can’t afford college–the government could pay for everyone to go to school. Or, to take this to an absurd extreme to illustrate the point, what about people that die in car crashes? The government could outlaw cars and save every one of those people’s lives.

We shouldn’t think of the role of the government in terms of what it could do to stop bad things from happening to people, because in that case there would be no limits to government because there is always something it could do to stop any particular perceived bad thing from happening. Rather, the purpose of the government is only to do those things that benefit everyone in a more-or-less equal fashion (such as defense, police, roads, etc.), because it is only for those things that it makes sense for the government to force everyone to pay.

That is such a lame justification for not being humane or charitable. If you can convince yourself treating the poor and unlucky like that is doing them a favor., what else are you capable of deluding yourself of? Tough love/ Training the poor . Perhaps you should teach them to be like you with poor people treats and a rolled newspaper.

It was a comment to the assembled. SA doesn’t require a comeback, he’s an idiot on the face of it. Magellan, bubbie, read the post again when you’re confused.

I’ll leave it to the peanut gallery as to which of us is stupid. But you know where my vote is. :smiley: After all, I’m not the one who wants to withhold basic human rights from people just because I’m prejudiced. So maybe you should shut your lying, cowardly mouth* kay?

*To cut off your bullshit denials. You’re a liar because you’ve said that you have a real argument against SSM. You’re a coward because you are too afraid to face the fact that you don’t have an argument. Yay!

What?

No one said anyone or anything required a comeback, Chucklehead. (As if what you wrote even makes sense.) But I took the opportunity to respond to your kneejeerk stock-in-trade. Required? No. Optional? Yes. Enjoyable to point out what a pathetic little one-trick pony? Absolutely.

Oooooooo. Well, maybe you should shut it for me, Mr. Big Brave Internet Tough Guy. M’kay? :rolleyes:

But I think it’s hilarious that you think that even if I were prejudiced, that that would absolve you of your stupidity. Again, you need to re-reread what Starving Artist wrote to you.

By the way, Chucklehead, do you prefer Chucklehead or LOLbohan? Or something a bot more formal like Chucklehead The One Trick Pony? Please advise.

<cough> Asshole says what <cough>

I don’t know if I could beat you up. I do know that you’re a weak, hateful little shit. And that’s true no matter how big you biceps are.

I understood it the first time, thanks.

I’d prefer you to call me whatever makes you look more pathetic. I’m sure you will figure that out on your own. :smiley:

Well, that’s one more thing that I know and you don’t. And it has nothing to do with biceps or size. It has to do with you being a pussy. You’re a loud little chihuahua on these boards, yapping at people trying to make a show of toughness and brains, in the hopes that you’ll never have to actually man up. And in real life you’re a punk, seeking comfort and protection from the crowd that you try to be a part of. Tell me, Chucklehead, do have a pack of cigarettes rolled up in your sleeve. Maybe a tattoo? :eek: Because, by golly, you really come off as being just THAT tough.

Evidently not.

Sigh. God, you’re not good at this, Chucklehead. You simply must try harder. Otherwise, I’m going to have to start charging you.

I know. I don’t want the government to pay for health insurance, so i’m an asshole. Simply amazing. There is lots of stuff the government could pay for but doesn’t.

Sorry, don’t smoke. And as I say, I’ll let the peanut gallery make the appropriate judgments.

I don’t think you understand what evidence means.

Am I to understand that your milkshake is bringing the boys to the yard? :smiley:

I see you’re getting the message. Good. And this last thing you wrote…it makes no sense, of course. But it may be one of the least dopey things you’ve ever written here.

Baby steps, but progress nonetheless.