You can (individually) ask your boss to let you arrive an hour earlier or later for work, given the change in DST, and most workplaces would be reasonable about shifting you to a 9-5 or 8-4 or 10-6 shift–possibly workplaces would even shift everyone to a different shift under the new system, twice per year. Most people’s workplaces can cope with a planned number of employees needing to adjust their working hours to accommodate parents, or would never have a problem with parents’ needing to adjust their hours. Or maybe what would happen is that parents would need to hire babysitters to work early hours instead of hours in the late afternoons to care for their kids.
I spent a summer once on a Canadian farm where the family refused to use daylight savings time because it upset the cows. They were not selling the milk so they didn’t have to coordinate with the milk guy.
I loathe the time change, because it takes me several weeks to adjust and it just feels like someone arbitrarily tipped my world to the side. There’s no advantage, in my particular life, to changing the time, only disadvantage.
That’s adorable!
I don’t really care which they go with, but I do wish it would stay the same.
On my drive to work, there are two extremely annoying sun moments, one with the sun right in my eyes behind the stoplight, and another with the sun shining in all my mirrors as I am merging onto the highway.
It’s about 2 weeks in the spring and fall that the sun lines up this way, and then pretty much as soon as it’s no longer the case, daylight savings changes, and I get another 2 weeks of the sun being placed in inconvenient locations.
It also confuses my dogs. They don’t read clocks, so are even more thrown off by the time change, giving me dirty looks as I try to get them up and going an hour early, or getting impatient with me as they get up on time, and I sleep an hour later.
I do think I prefer permanent DST to not, but I can go either way.
Which part do you particularly adore?
Once upon a time, it was thought to save power. That turns out to be almost totally untrue. The amount of power it saves, if any, is trivial. At this point, they switch because they’ve “always” switched and most people resist any change, even if the change is not to change.
Although many of my clocks change automatically, I still had to change 7 clocks and my pocket watch. That last is especially irksome as it has many functions and they have designed it so that changing it is really a nuisance.
Don’t forget the time change allows fire departments an opportunity to remind folks to change their smoke detector batteries. (maybe they could switch to the equinoxes)
Brian
The valley floor being flat here in Phoenix metro, the main streets are laid out following the township and range lines of the PLSS which means they are due east-west (and north-south). My brother grumbled how he could tell the equinoxes because for about two weeks the sun was straight in his eyes to and from work.
I’ve always lived east of work so I never noticed.
Near me the latest sunrise is 0738, the earliest sunset is 1627. (both are standard time)
I’d rather deal with a 4:27 sunset than a 8:38 sunrise, nut I am more of a morning person.
Brian
FYI, this law wouldn’t take effect until next year so we’d get one more fall back and the last spring forward in 2023.
Here are several reasons why year 'round DST is not the panacea you think it is.
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Those that do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. I should know. I flunked it twice. Congress tried permanent DST 1974. Year ‘round DST was repealed by the end of the year because of reason #2.
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At first glance, it appears that the kiddies will have more after-school daylight; the reverse is what will actually happen. No one wants the kiddies walking to school in the dead of night, so school start times will gradually migrate to one hour later. School that used to end at 2:15 will soon end at 3:15. So the January after-school daylight will be the same as it is today. Where I live, sunset in mid-October takes place at 5:52pm DST. That won’t change. Instead of having 3 1/2 hours of sunlight after school, the kiddies will only have 2 1/2 hours. The loss of after school light will be in effect from March thru October.
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No matter how hard Congress tries, they can’t repeal the law of supply and demand. In the long run, the sun determines our activity. If the kiddies go to school one hour later, other aspects of society will do so as well. Pretty soon, we’ll be right back to where we are now
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For those that want more daylight after work, just get up an hour earlier from November to March. Why force your whims on the rest of us.
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Going from the sublime to the ridiculous: why advance just one hour? Why not make it two? Better yet, put the whole country on UTC. The whole country would be the land of the midnight sun in June. China is as wide as four time zones and they all set their clocks the same.
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Here are some January DST sunrise times in various cities. Where to you live?
08:46 Buffalo; 09:01 Detroit; 09:05 Indianapolis;
09:12 Grand Rapids, MI; 09:32 Marquette MI 08:18 Chicago;
08:49 Omaha, NE 08:51 Minneapolis, MN; 09:12 Fargo, ND; 0
09:35 Minot, ND 09:44 Williston, ND; 08:45 Salt Lake City;
09:18 Boise, ID 09:27 Kalispell, MT; 08:57 Seattle
You seem to be entirely missing the point, which is that we stop having to change the clocks twice a year. If school or work start times have to shift, big deal. It’s the counterproductive shift that’s the issue.
Given your username, perhaps you’re unaware of the annoyance that DST causes the rest of us.
How is that less counterproductive? It’s still a shift. Or are you thinking businesses and schools change their hours year round?
Businesses and schools have hours that are completely arbitrary. If your boss tells you “You have to show up and leave work an hour earlier from now on,” what are you gonna do? Quit? Yeah, right, You’ll suck it up.
Well, that’s exactly what ALL of society is being dictated to by this stupid changing of the clocks. And all of us idiots have been sucking it up for decades. Now we’re quitting.
Again. We’ll see if it sticks this time.
You must live in a far more progressive country than mine (the US). Also, re: the constant babysitters, how much money do you think grows on the trees of parents (they usually aren’t hiring babysitters for the late afternoons currently after all)?
Ideally daycares and schools will shift their hours and workplaces shift their expected hours as a result (of course that would take away the extra hour in the evening benefit)
The poster said nothing against permanent standard time, however, so I assume that’s what they are advocating for. That would also prevent the time shifting.
Honolulu Lulu was a song by Jan & Dean back in 1963. My father-in-law called me that when I returned from a Hawaiian vacation with a tan. My name ain’t even Lulu.
Where I live, the time of sunrise & sunset shift three hours during course of a year. With year ‘round DST, January sunrise would be at 8:30 (too late). With year ‘round standard time, June sunrise would be at 4:30 (too early). By switching clocks, there is only a two hour change of sunrise.
Hawaii only has a 90 minute shift of sunrise & sunset, so changing clocks is not that beneficial to them.
I keep a list of eleven clocks/watches that have to be changed. Computer & cell phones do it for you. Normally, it would take me about twenty minutes, but I also adjust clocks that have drifted during the six month period. To me, it’s worth it. YMMV. However, if I had to choose, I’d pick year ’round standard time over DST.
Personally, I think the US should copy Europe: Last Sunday in March to last Sunday in October. Again, YMMV.
For most of these areas, they are still waking up and driving to work in the dark with standard time.
There is a European initiative, still stalled in the bowels of bureaucracy waiting for final approval last I checked, essentially stating that each country has to pick one time zone and stick with it year-round.