DC Court of Appeals rules against Trump Immunity, SCOTUS Makes a Different Decision

Maybe Trump shouldn’t have used Charles I as a witness.

it could be worded in a way that is not so blatant.

instead of saying to the special operations teams, go kill my political rival…you say, a person who is on the most wanted list is at this address. get them.

basically a “swatting call” with special operations teams.

(Emphasis added)

Not under Trump!

What, you collect $10 for coming in second place in a beauty pageant?

Statement from Trump about the ruling:

“A President will be afraid to act for fear of the opposite Party’s Vicious Retribution after leaving Office,” he posted, saying that “it will become a Political Weapon.”

Wrong, you fecking idiot. It means a president cannot commit illegal acts with no repercussions, moron. He missed that small point.

No, meant, Trump is the ultimate, “Gas, grass or ass, no one rides for free” guy.

Expected, I suppose. Trump sees this as purely political. As is typical, he did nothing wrong; this is Biden going after him.

Wrong, Trump. You brought all this on yourself, and Biden has bigger things to worry about.

*cough*Oliver North*cough*

I’m sure Mike Flynn would happily shoot Biden on demand from DJT. There are likely many more.

When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal.

So what is the timetable on Trump appealing this? I’ve seen different opinions expressed online (from “its toast, he’ll be able to string out the appeal until the election, whatever the SC says” to “no way the DC case will get delayed past April, as long the SC doesn’t take the case”)

What is the dope?

You know, this makes a lot of sense. SCOTUS would greatly prefer not to get mired in yet another Trump dumpster fire, I would think. And I don’t think there are enough Justices that have any interest in giving Trump a much-desired delay. Roberts, for example, doesn’t care if Trump burns. Frankly, other than Thomas, I’m not sure any of them have any allegiance to Trump. Their loyalty is to all that conservative, originalist jive.

Keeps their fingerprints off of any official decision (optically, anyway) and lands them on essentially what they’d rule anyway. I can see it.

It has occurred to me recently that the Suplreme Court (Republican faction) wouldn’t mind putting the skids under Trump, if it meant that they got a candidate more likely to win in the general election.

I wish that when Nixon had said this, interviewer David Frost had just leaned over the table and slapped him upside the head and yelled “NO!”

What viable Republican candidate is there that doesn’t have the stink of Trump all over him?

I don’t know that there is one. But Nicki Haley come closer than most, and there are polls that suggest she has a better chance than Trump in the general.

There ya go.

If you’re a dictator, you’ve got no need of a SCOTUS. Ergo, they are not eager to see him reelected.

This is a very straightforward decision if one accepts the threshold premise that no one is above the law. The notion that Trump has immunity based on a non-conviction in impeachment proceedings is especially laughable.

My observation is that even this SCOTUS stopped assisting Trump as soon as he was out of office. They made some decisions that were very favorable for him while he was (pretending to be) presidentin’. But not since. Not even Clarence Thomas.

I don’t think this is a hard call for them to deny cert. The DC Court of Appeals has already done their work for them.

As for en banc proceedings, because this decision was unsigned – meaning all 3 panel judges fully support it – I think we can assume they speak for the entire bench.

To me, this is a very positive development for the case to move forward comparatively quickly now.

Is a Trumpanista not named Trump better than Trump himself? I’d say yes but it could be a debate on that.

I think we’re going to find out pretty soon, anyway. The DC court was always going to rule this way, so the SC must already know what they plan to do (barring internal unresolved disagreement I guess), so if their plan all along was to deny cert and stop him delaying any further, you’d expect them to deny cert fairly soon after the appeal is filed. Within a few weeks of the 2/12 appeal deadline or we can infer it’s bad news coming?

I looked in on a predominantly RW message board after this morning’s decision was handed down. They’re beside themselves, and pretty much every one is stating some variation of, “How can this be? He was acquitted by the Senate!”

There are more moderate voices there, and they are patiently trying to explain that there is no connection or correlation between impeachment proceedings and today’s matter. But I suspect that their patience is wearing thin; that’s coming through in their posts, and indicated by the ones who just gave up and stopped commenting.