Dean's VP?

Bayh was on Gore’s short list, but was cut mainly because he was too young (he still looks like he’s not old enough to run for office). He did leave Indiana’s statehouse with the highest approval rating of a departing governor since they started collecting approval ratings. Bayh does not bring much gravitas to the ticket; Daddy’s legacy is pretty much worn out.

Bayh is a relatively obscure Senator from a relatively unimportant state. Indiana only wields 12 electoral votes and hasn’t voted for a Democrat since 1964 – even though it’s put Democrats in the state house since 1989. The only place where choosing an Indiana runningmate might help much is Illinois, which is already solidly in the Dem column anyway, and it’s unlikely to give the Dems Indiana.

So yeah, Bayh might be an option, but I don’t think he’s high on the list and I don’t think he’d help the ticket nearly as much as would either Edwards or Graham (both of whom are from the South).

Assuming Dean gets the nomination (which is very much a premature assumption, BTW), I think Edwards would not help him much. His past as a trial lawyer will hurt him even among some centrists. As a VP candidate, I’m not sure he could even help the ticket carry his home state of North Carolina, much less any other Southern state.

It pains me to say it, because I agree with most of the points he makes, but I think Edwards, despite being from the South, wouldn’t play all that well in the South.

Graham might help Dean in Florida. (I don’t know the extent of his popularity there. A Floridian could better answer that question.) However, I don’t think Graham will help Dean anywhere else, and definitely won’t help him carry any state in the South not named “Florida.” (Of course, given the results of the last election, Florida might be enough.)

Dean, if he wins, desperately needs Clark on the ticket. Clark plays much better in the South (and with moderates generally) than any of the other candidates. I just hope bruised egos in the latter stages of the primaries don’t get in the way of a Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean ticket.

Besides, we all know who the last Senator from IN to become Veep was, and that should give us pause.

Also, there was a lightly-reported ethics scandal attached to Edwards (involving a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia who offered to purchase Edwards’s home). If Edwards were to become a part of the ticket, I’m confident that would become a heavily-reported scandal. (Let me be quick to say that there was no proof of any wrongdoing on Edwards’s part, but there was the whiff of impropriety.)

He’s also got a goofy name.

Cynic that I am, I have to believe the poor performance of candidates like Dukakis is due not just to their incompetent campaigns, but also to the fact that Joe Average Voter can’t quite get his head around saying “President Dukakis.” And “Bayh” looks like a typo.

Of course, “Governor Schwarzenegger” is the exception that proves the rule… :wink:

Cervaise, not to mention Governor Blagoyevich. I swear, it’s hard to say that without sounding like you’re puking.

As others have suggested, I’ve long had my eye on Bill Richardson as a potential running mate for Dean. He balances the ticket geographically, he’s got good foreign policy experience (which makes up for something that Dean lacks,) and he’s Hispanic. Richardson’s a popular governor, too, which will help.

Bob Graham is another good choice. Despite Graham’s presidential campaign having fizzled, he remains a very popular senator in Florida, and would give Dean some Southern credibility. The fact that Florida packs 27 electoral votes is nothing to overlook, either—not to mention that that state’ll probably come down to the wire again. Having Graham on the ticket would help Dean’s chances in the more borderline Southern states like North Carolina, Tennessee and Arkansas. Graham’s reputation as someone who speaks his mind and holds his positions in spite of opposition will match Dean nicely.

Wesley Clark would be a good choice, as well—provided a potential February 3 primary fracas doesn’t generate any bad blood between the doctor and the general. A general who opposed Bush’s action will play well on the ticket. Detractors will air ads featuring Clark’s statement on how Bush is doing the right thing, but that would only give Clark an opportunity to bring up how Bush duped America on the issue of weapons of mass destruction and the “imminent” threat of Iraq—and I know lots of people could relate to that.

lee suggested Ann Richards. Probably not, but what a team they’d make! She’s great; I’d love to see her back in politics.

Eliot Spitzer’s name has been tossed around a little, but I don’t see it happening. Spitzer would draw criticism to Bush because of Bush’s ties to Enron and unaddressed corporate corruption in general, but Spitzer is more likely to run for Governor of New York in 2006, and will probably win handily, unless the New York Republicans can dig up some heretofore unknown wunderkind.

And how about Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa? He’s popular, balanced his state budget, and can’t run for a third term in 2006. I admit I don’t know enough about him to speculate whether he’d make a good vice president, but he does seem to have some of the basic qualities to recommend him.

I can’t see Dean considering any of the other Democratic contenders right now as a running mate. I really do like Dean/Richardson, though.
Concerning the question on this thread about crossover voters: it’s still too early to say which candidate’s going to attract the most crossovers. I’m betting it’ll be Dean; Bush is a known quantity, and those who believed his “compassionate conservative” spiel in 2000 won’t be fooled again. I’m pleased to report that my mother, a lifelong Republican and citizen of the swing state of Pennsylvania, won’t be voting for Bush again and quite likes Dean. She’s a senior citizen, too, but her main gripes are with the war and the lies leading up to it. My Republican Pennsylvanian sister is also leaning away from Bush, whom she voted for the last time. Okay, so that’s only two converts, but I don’t think there are many leaning the other way and anyway, those two are in a swing sta… er, commonwealth, which is a bigger deal. Me and my fellow New Yorkers will vote for whichever Democrat runs, and in large numbers.

Thankfully, I think pigs (trayf) would fly first. Lieberman has been very, very sharply critical of Dean, and of Gore for endorsing Dean. I don’t know that they have any issues in common, and Dean has made hay with the fact that he was anti-war. Nobody was more pro-war among Democrats than Lieberman. Also, both are from states in the Northeast, so there’d probably be no advantage there.

If you buy into the speculation that Clark is the Clintons’ guy, no way would Hillary run with Dean. I don’t think she would regardless. Oh, and Gore was already Vice President for 8 years. He’s not going to run for the same office again.

I think that Graham or Clark do fit especially well with Dean. However, I can’t help but think that he will choose some VP that will suprise everyone. Well everyone except for maybe lee:).

Something unsuprising would just not fit with his campaign so far.

Jeb Bush.

Now THAT would be surprising.

Dean should nominate me.

1.) I am from the South and speak the language.

2.) I have worked regualr jobs and can speak with regular people.

3.) I endorse the legalization of marijuana.

4.) I endorse the total overhaul of taxes, including the outlawing of the IRS.

5.)I have ridden in pickups with Confederate flags on the decal.

6.) I debate better than Cheney. Smarter than Quayle and take my medication, unlike Gore.

7.) I like people.

  1. People like me.

  2. The idea of making 202,900 dollars a year sitting on my ass all day cutting ribbons in supermarket openings appeal to me.

  3. I pee standing up.

  4. Lastly, as VP, I would take my friends, the guys with the pickups and Confederate flags, and we would travel to Afghanistan with out 12 guage shotguns and we would find Osama Bin Laden with in a week. How hard is it to find a 7 foot Arab with a colostomy bag anyway?

Governor Dean, I await your call.

ET

Well, hell, if he’s going for surprise, he could nominate Paris Hilton. Or Ashton Kutcher. Or Biff Henderson, stage manager on the Letterman show. Or the reanimated corpse of Richard Crenna. Rocco Siffreddi, maybe. Kobe Bryant. Osama bin Laden. Hannity and Combs. J-Lo. Brundlefly. Billy Bob Thornton. The creepy Baby-Head Sun from the Teletubbies. A handful of trail mix. Jack Osbourne.

It’ll never happen, but imagine the press if he selects Emeril. “My fellow Americans, BAM!:smiley:

All right, in the realm of seroiusness, here’s a good suprise pick:

Zell Miller.

Except ol’ Zell has already endorsed Bush.

Handful of Trail Mix is intriguing though…

Zell Miller’d have a better chance as Lieberman’s running mate. They’re both Republicans concealed as Democrats.

Lieberman’s voting record doesn’t really bear that out. Yes, he does stray from the left on Iraq, school vouchers and that whole “violence in the media” bit, but from an economic and (generally) social perspective, he’s a Democrat through and through.

Zell Miller is that last of a dying breed of Southern Democrats (Rep. Ralph Hall, D-Texas, is another) who are Democrats solely because “my daddy was a Democrat and my daddy’s daddy was a Democrat.”

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2003/12/11/dont_expect_a_landslide.html

I think that Dean will have a hard road to the Presidency, but I also think that any comparisons to McGovern or Mondale (or even Dukakis) are ill-founded.

Zell Miller’d have a better chance as Lieberman’s running mate. They’re both Republicans concealed as Democrats

On a couple of issues, but both receive very high ratings from most liberal organizations. Miller is a fiscal conservative and hawk, Lieberman is a hawk and conservative on some social issues. Both have a good record with the League of Conservation Voters, NAACP, ACLU, and NARAL.

If Democrats are intent on purging all heretics that disagree on an issue here and there, they will be the minority party for a long time.

Dean will win at least 100 electoral votes in today’s political climate. But Bush can very easily win 40 states, and even if the popular vote doesn’t bear it out, that looks like a landslide when you look at the electoral map.

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada.

Well loved here, very anti-Yucca Mountain (the Bush regime selected nuclear waste dump in Nevada), he was an attorney, a judge and is well liked in the legal community as a fair man, even by Republicans. Plus, it would be good to have someone from the Western States.

I would be surprised if Gore wanted to be second banana again, so I doubt he would accept a VP slot.

I do, however, think Clark’s whole purpose of “running” for President is to position himself as the ideal Vice President.

How about Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY)?