Yeah, this is what happens when you don’t raise the minimum wage for decades and then say, “Boo hoo! It’s going to cost us too much! Too big a jump! We’ll all be ruined!”
Eff that! Who’s going to buy all the TVs and Play Stations that we import from around the world to boost your stock portfolio if no one can afford to eat, let alone play?
I didn’t say it was “widespread,” but it is common knowledge among people who have a broad, liberal arts education. I came across it in a graduate class (2 semesters) called The History of American Christianity that I took in 1969. Sadly, liberal arts programs have been given short shrift in favor of STEM and business classes. So, sadly, nowadays a grown-up can graduate with a college degree and never have had in-depth exposure to this stuff.
McDonald’s has already fired the first round in the minimum wage battle.
McDonald’s Announces Its Answer to $15 an Hour Minimum Wage – Touch-Screen Cashiers. Yep, you want 15 bucks an hour, meet your replacement.
For English, press 1.
For Spanish, press 2.
For a super sized order press 5
Please swipe your card now.
Thank you.
Wages going up = wealth redistribution between social classes. I suspect that this is the actual bugbear in Republican circles.
:dubious: Too bad they can’t negotiate better terms.
@ HeXen - Brilliant parody or sad testimonial.
Except perhaps the ones possessing competitors dealing with similar operating conditions.
Whole businesses can go out of business if people decide “X” is now a luxury instead of a staple or if they compete in the global market where other countries are not subject to the US’s MW laws.
Come on, now. Real world. I work in the industrial sector. The owner would get a loan if he had to (probably not the first). The market demand that was there the day before the new, hypothetical MW law came into effect is still likely to be largely intact the following day.
What a great idea. Let’s takes some random guy you met on a plane and, without knowing one single thing about his business, debate what his business plan should be. How could we possibly get anything wrong?
Yes, you did. You assigned it to “Republicans”. Now, if you want to backtrack and say “Oh, my oh my, I did not mean to malign all or even most Republicans”, you can go and have that debate with someone else.
So, why don’t these business guys just raise their prices right now? Do you realize that you just said market demand is independent of price? And you claim to be talking about the “real world”?
He wasn’t a random guy. He was a known, regular customer, and I know the rather large amount he was paying for the trip. Do you really not see the irony of this person, standing on a private jet at 45,000 feet, complaining about paying people a bit more to reach a proposed minimum wage? Even if there turn out to be good reasons for his argument, do you not even acknowledge the optics of that moment are pretty bad?
If not, I’d say you’re working overtime (heh) in giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Bad as in those jobs go to China, India, or to under the table wages. Job force participation being so low is the fake reason why unemployment numbers look reasonable.
And then you’d be out of a job.
That’s the best ya got? What’s next? Rubber-glue? The hamster called. He wants his wheel back. I say we give it to him. But it’s been fun.
To me, yes, he’s some random guy. You chose to reveal absolutely nothing about him or his business. So unless you want to claim that no one should every charter a private jet, then I don’t see how I can offer any insight into this guy’s business.
In deference to his privacy, I won’t reveal details of what his business is or anything that might identify him.
And I don’t see how your comment follows. I have no objection to people chartering private jets. I do, however think if they reach that level of success they don’t get to complain about a a raise in the minimum wage.
I suppose the retort would be, “They didn’t get where they are by paying people more money than they have to.” To which I reply: Tough titty. You reach a point where you can charter my very expensive plane, you have some sort of moral responsibility to support higher wages at the minimum - MINIMUM - level. I’m sure a lot of savings could be had and passed on to his employees if he merely downsized to a somewhat smaller jet.
Cite?
Riiiight… Because that’s a thing.
And those people are douchebags who are too stupid to not fall for the obvious rhetoric. To those, I say: “HEY ASSHOLES, YOU’RE NOT GETTING LESS”. Wasn’t it the republicans who complained about “class warfare” tearing people down? Well shit, if I make $15 an hour as a sous-chef, and now the dishwasher is also making $15 an hour, what have I lost? Oh right - nothing. Not only that, but I have gained a much stronger bargaining position, as I can credibly argue that my work is worth quite a bit more than $15 an hour.
An increase of more than 100% is not just a “bit more”.
No, it’s the customers that keep those people employed, and if the customers have less and less buying power they buy less, so fewer employees are needed. If a country’s wealth is distributed more to those who will keep it in circulation instead of being stashed in the Caymans by people who already have way more than they need to survive, the economy as a whole is healthier.
I don’t know what the OP considers to be rich but I’m pretty high up on the scale and I oppose the $15 an hour minimum wage. I don’t see why I should be vilified for doing so. $15 and hour minimum wage is a waste of time and will do very little to change the economic situation at the lower end of the wage scale. This is just another liberal feel good measure. Not only won’t I support it but I will actively work against it. I won’t accept anything less than a $20 an hour minimum wage.
$20/hr. minimum wage might be necessary to be able to afford to buy anything that runs on electricity once Trump kicks off the trade war with China.