Seeing that I drive a Windstar and am looking to trade it in on a Suburban (and also drive a minimum of 300 miles per week) I guess I am truly one of the doomed or soon to be damned.
Ya know… if they made a hyper efficient hybrid vehicle that would carry between 7 and 9 people on a regular basis plus a ton of shit I would be the first one lined up to buy it. Being that they don’t, my choices are limited. The mini-van is just too small for 7 adults and isn’t really designed for carrying building materials.
When you think of it, if I was carrying 7 people in a vehicle that gets 20mpg ( Suburban diesel ) I am going to be moving those people more with more fuel efficiency than the one person in their sedan that’s getting 30mpg.
Yeah, I’m one of those people who needs a vehicle with the capacity to carry lots of people and the ability to handle the weather and roads from hell. I also like to spend time out in the boonies and having an off road capacity is essential. We’ve got a ton of fresh snow on the already icy roads and many businesses have closed because people can’t make it in to work today.
If I had my 4 wheel drive Suburban Assault Vehicle I’d STILL being staying home because the roads are a nightmare, visibility is poor, and it’s really fucking cold. It’s one of those “only travel if you have to” days here in the frozen north.
…erm , since when does poseur = tailgating lane switching fashion whore?
I don’t believe my post made that connection.
I think that if you drive a huge, jacked up 4 wheel drive truck based vehicle that is exactly the same as it’s less prestigious brand corporate twin, except for the large badge and the power leather ashtray you are certainly a poseur.
Poseur = one who is so concious of image that they let it push them into driving a more expensive vehicle that can’t handle for shit on a smooth dry road but no fool in their right mind would wear muddy shoes inside, let alone take offroad.
Heh… Okay, let’s compare two people. My mom has a Dodge Caravan. My friend has a Subaru Impreza/Outback Sport (Which is, apparently, an SUV):
The Caravan uses quite a bit more gas
The Caravan is significantly more likely to roll over in a crash than the Subaru. In fact, the Subaru is the most stable and nimble vehicle I’ve ever been in (Got to love that AWD and low center-of-gravity).
Both vehicles will probably fare about as well in a crash, but the Caravan will probably cause much greater damage to whatever it hits (And I’ve got a good story about the crash we’d been in, in the previous Caravan. Police got to the scene and were shocked nobody died). The Subaru posseses zero intimidation factor.
The Caravan blocks more vision than almost any SUV I’ve seen. The Subaru blocks less vision than any SUV I’ve seen, as well as less than most cars. He’s also most certainly not an “asshat.” For that matter, neither is anyone else I know that owns an SUV.
And yet, it’s my friend in the Subaru that gets all the crap.
Ya know… I’m going to have to propose a new subclassification for these vehicles- the LUV. LUXURY Utility Vehicle.
I think that most people, when they complain about SUVs, are really complaining about the lane-hogging, gas-guzzling, small-car-crushing Canyoneros with their own zip code. You’re right- these vehicles annoy me, too. They certainly aren’t SPORT Utility Vehicles- they’re designed to be as big as possible, and are targetted towards the reasonably wealthy.
I drive, however, a Blazer. As SUVs go, it’s fairly small. It’s really just a pickup with a covered bed. When you think about it, a Jeep Wrangler is a Sport Utility Vehicle- do you have a problem with those?
My bad, so you look at the vehicle and say “look at that huge, jacked up 4 wheel drive truck based vehicle that is exactly the same as it’s less prestigious brand corporate twin, except for the large badge and the power leather ashtray. What a fucking poseur!”
Whew, safe! I have a hitch on my SUV- it weighs 87 pounds and it’s held on by eight 1/2" or 5/8" grade-eight bolts. It peeks through the skidplate of my 115-pound rear bumper made predominantly of 1/4" steel. How do I know this? I made them myself. I wanted to be sure the hitch was sturdy enough to tow the 4,500-pound 16-foot deck car trailer (with a winch) even when it’s loaded with, say, the 4,800-pound Olds (that has a 7.6-liter big block that gets about 14mpg.)
The only accident I have ever been in was when I was rear-ended at relatively low speed when I was waiting to turn. The other vehicle was an Explorer (gad, they ARE evil!) that suffered $2,300 in damage, compared to the lightly scuffed paint on my rear bumper.
Why am I telling you all this? No reason, I just want to see if ol’ Punks can turn an even brighter shade of apoplectic purple. And I’m bored.
Actually, I’m sure you do it all the time.
You see the high school chess club walking on one side of the street.
You see a group of bikers walking on the other.
Which side of the street do you pick to walk on?
Some stereotypes are spot on.
For example, the general geekiness of people who pick net names based on bad guys in Lord of the Rings.
Sauron, you’re far to hostile a person to really be concerned about peace and love and brotherhood and all that. You’re simply trying to pat yourself on the back for an imagined superiority.
Sauron, making up fake quotes is grounds for being banned from the board.
I will give you this once chance.
But don’t do it again. Do you understand me?
Feynn, I agree that it would be nice if there were hybird or alternative fuel vehicles in a size that would suit your needs. Maybe someday soon there will be.
World Eater, flags are not supposed to be used as decoration. In fact, it is improper for a flag to be fastened in any place it can be soiled (like the bumper of a car). Don’t just take my word for it; it’s in the US Code, Title IV Chapter 1, Section 1. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/4/index.html
Tony Montana, if your flag sticker is all shiny and clean on your SUV, then clearly you are not going off-road with it, so why exactly do you need it, pray tell?
Hate to be a big ol’ I-told-you-so, but this genious doubled his post count on this thread alone. I know you fight for the enlightenment of all, but others fight simply to fight.
One thing I will not tolerate is someone inventing false quotes.
I am not pretending to be a mod.
If you post fake quotes, you will get to talk to one, though.
Understand, E-Sabbath?
