I have no problem with people bitching, I DO have a problem with people not doing it, and then wondering why they were passed over or fired, in favor of the person who did.
I don’t think anyone wonders. I think they know exactly why, but they’d rather be principled and unpromoted than a sycophant making more money. So then they come here to bitch about bad managers who care more about who’s got their tongue up their ass than about who’s delivering quality work.
So: being and unemployed principled person is better than an employed sycophant? :dubious: In what possible universe is it better to be poor than rich? Principles and $3 will get you a cup of coffee.
I’ve often said that the worst day on the job is better than the best day while unemployed.
And tomorrow we have “Hot Dog Day”!
Woo-hoo :rolleyes:
There has already been a slew of emails asking for people to bring stuff.
I am ignoring them.
I will say this - I worked at one company where the division I was in was kind of sequestered in our own little section. We had a side entrance and depending on the day, I might go the whole day without running in to anyone from the rest of the building.
It always amused me that the only time we were ever included in any of the company functions was when there was potluck - because they wanted us to bring stuff. When they had pizza days or birthday cakes or any of that stuff, we would only ever find out about it by accident or when they were done and didn’t feel like bringing the extras home.
Why do you keep replying in non sequitur?
Very well put.
Fuck that noise. I may not work for the creme de la creme of bosses, but at least mine knows that my job is based on, well, my ability to do my job. That seems so obvious to me that I don’t know how else to phrase such an elementary concept. (Also that my ability to maintain sanity is aided by having personal time to myself. You know, that whole work/family/life balance?)
Not easily, I’d imagine. That’s some serious cojones right there.
I just attended an SF convention last weekend. One of the big things was the consuite, where food is offerred up to keep the attendees happy. The current consuite organizers have been doing the job for ~3 years, and one of their big improvements was (a) the people running the consuite using gloves to prepare the food, and (b) use of serving utensils including tongs for chips and pretzels and things. These two actions were specifically to reduce “con crud”, i.e. the wave of sickness that happens when you cluster several hundred strangers in a tight space and have them share food.
That sounds like a personal problem to me. Serving sizes should be small enough for people to take a sample of things. It is easier to load up a handful of small bits if you want more than to cut up a big piece when you only want a bite of that. As long as you aren’t picking it up, taking a bite, then putting the rest down, “discarded pieces” really just equals “cutting off a smaller sample”.
My co-worker takes his pocket knife and cuts donuts in half, leaving half a donut. Some people are brave enough to eat that half donut, but not I. I’ve seen him pull that pocket knife out and cut all kinds of things and I’ve stood downwind of this co-worker. Between those two data points is a complete desire to run when he has come into contact with any type of food that is intended to be ‘shared’.
Regardless of what the ideal service size would be, people should take it as it comes rather than trying to reconfigure it.
Now if I were a shareholder, I would need some serious evidence that this pattern of recruitment and retention is likely to yield better profits than say…oh I don’t know… paying people by results, hiring people for their ability, mundane things like that.
This is utterly unkown in the UK, obviously there are some folk who socialise, but I think it would probably be in contravention of employment law and also the EU rights to freedom of expression and freedom of assembly and freedom of association.
But on top of all of that, its just plain bad business practice, you want the best employees you can get for the money that you have to lay out, last thing you want it to retain losers who hold their post through this kind of ass kissing. Promotion of the less able on the basis of attendance of such functions works directly against company interests.
How is what I said a non sequitur? The post you quoted is demonstrably true. :rolleyes:
What, the part that said that people who go on the internet to bitch about their bad managers prefer to be poor? Or something else?
Are you disagreeing that it’s better to be employed than not? :dubious:
What is wrong with you? What questions are you answering? Certainly not the ones being asked, just some questions you pull out of the air somewhere…
Here is the series of posts:
So you say, it behooves you to go to boss’ party and pretend to enjoy yourself. Yes, this is true.
Same thing, right?
Then, someone explains that sure, we’ll do it just enough to keep our jobs, but not enough to get promoted or go high up on the corporate ladder.
So you immediately start talking about unemployed persons. NON-SEQUITOR ONE.
But we weren’t talking about unemployed people! We were talking about people who are not 100% motivated.
And…non-sequitor 2. We are not talking about unemployed people! You are deliberately creating a little strawman in your head and responding to it and it’s more than a little annoying. And you have a habit of doing this in at least one other thread, where we also disagreed…though that time you did eventually stop and read what was actually being said.
**Anaamika **nailed it on the head. I don’t know who you think you’re talking to, etv78, but it’s nobody in this thread.
Fair enough. Especially if resizing involves (a) touching the food to “brace” it or whatever, or (b) using something other than a clean utensil/utensil provided for the food. Pocket knives do not count. Now if it is a slice of pie that is in large slices, and you want to use the provided serving knife to split a piece, and you handle the pie by the pie plate, then that is not unreasonable.
Similar situation when we go to lunch at a restaurant that insists on serving small loaves of bread for the table to share, and you want to be nice and share rather than reserve the loaf to yourself, but sharing involves grabbing the loaf so you can cut/tear it into pieces. Annoying. I’m always uncomfortable being the one doing the cutting, nevermind being the receiving end.
I think I may start a practice of requesting my own loaf. They bring free refills on bread anyway, can’t see what that hurts.
I thought it was clear that I was talking to you and Acsenray. Sorry it wasn’t clear.