debunking material or breakthrough?

Don’t know what to think of this article, probably vaporware or something, but anyone familiar with this:


"The most astounding material object I’ve seen in my life!”

“We intend to protect this system, get it tested, get it perfected, get it out to the public, terminate the need for gas and oil and coal and 100 billion dollar oil wars, and start an entirely new sustainable civilisation on this planet that is long overdue”

“In the thuggish world in which we now live people get murdered, people have been imprisoned, people have had these things bought out only to sit on the black shelf at major corporations which would use any means necessary to suppress this free-energy device.”

“What if the 100 billion dollars they’re planning on spending for their war was plunged into a full all-out effort to develop free energy for the benefit of humanity?”
Interviewed on George Noory’s Coast to Coast radio program, Dr. Stephen Greer announced a working free-energy device which taps hundreds of watts of energy from the vacuum of space (zero point) and converts it to 110 AC current. He thrilled listeners with the tale of having just gone to see the inventor to observe the device for himself. He said you could pick it up in one hand.

“This is the most astounding material object I’ve ever seen in my life. And that’s saying something.” He likened it to a “Holy Grail type of device.”

The inventor’s name is being withheld for his own security and protection. In the thuggish world in which we now live there are quite a number of very powerful corporations which would use any means necessary to suppress this free-energy device. In fact we are on the verge of mass slaughter in order to get more oil.

Dr. Greer said security was the reason why he wanted to make the announcement immediately, and to a very wide audience:
"The reason I’m speaking about this, at this very early stage of its discovery, is that the millions of people listening tonight are our protection. Those of you who are listening to this should tell everyone they know that this is coming down the path. It is our intention to protect this system, get it tested, get it perfected, get it out to the public and terminate the need for gas and oil and coal and start an entirely new sustainable civilization on this planet, that is long overdue. It could have happened probably fifty years ago or more. But it’s now time for us to do it as a people.”

Greer has experience with gaining some security via wide public announcement in his other endeavour, “The Disclosure Project,” which has been working to make the government disclose top-secret knowledge on free energy systems. The secrets are held in the labyrinthine compartmentalised secret agencies and rogue military-industrial black projects. He persuaded hundreds of ex-military officers to announce their readiness to testify, if given immunity by congress, about these secret things. Propulsion systems, anti-gravity, reverse engineered spacecraft, and free energy. Above all, free energy. This rogue group has withheld from mankind all the abundance of Creation.

Greer wants everyone in on it from the start, so that if he turns up dead, or “suicided,” or “disappeared” they can look at the obvious culprits.
"Let me describe what I saw, if you have a moment.
"It’s not very big at all. I picked it up - you can pick it up with one hand. I took it out actually on a sidewalk. This device gathered, very passively, less than one watt of power from the environment - I won’t say how it was done, I’m not allowed to at this point - and the machine started up. It generated hundreds of watts of power in usable form. We hooked this up ourselves, so there was no mystery about it. We even selected the things to hook up to this thing. It ran a 300-watt light bulb, a 100-watt light bulb, a stereo and an oscillating fan with an electric motor, all at the same time with literally no artificial manmade input of power. So, this is of course an extraordinary scientific breakthrough. The inventor certainly deserves to get the next Nobel prize, or the one that would be awarded after this is fully tested by the scientific community, if indeed what we see holds up.
“There were no hidden power sources. And this is something obviously which could be put in every home, in every car and every industry, and would enable the world to leave the era of want and war, and enter an era of abundance and peace for as long as we want to create it. … We have heard of these things coming and going in the time of Tesla, in the time of Floyd Sweet, in the time of T. Henry Moray, and others, but to actually stand in the presence of a man who could build such a circuit and see it run was amazing. If I had to go to my grave tomorrow, at least I would know that such a thing is possible, which shines an enormous ray of hope into the world of humanity as we apparently march off to the next oil war.”

SEAS will now rebuild the machine from scratch, a more robust model, which should only take a few months.
"It will then be tested by at least three independent government and university labs which we have already pre-selected for their honesty and cooperation, and when all those ducks are lined up and we are certain of what we have, it will then be massively disclosed to the world in what has to be regarded as one of the most important scientific announcements in our time.
"Well, this is why I’m talking to you.… I wanted to be very very clear that this information got out as soon as possible because I have to tell you that this is the sort of thing that people have unfortunately in the past been absorbed into operations where these technologies have been suppressed. People have been murdered, people have been imprisoned, people have had these things bought out only to sit on the black shelf at a major corporation.”

"That is not a conspiracy theory. We can prove in a court of law that this has happened over and over again. And the reason we are moving quickly to let the world know that this exists is that the ultimate shield against that happening is two things:
Number one - my absolute assurance that I will take a bullet before I will let this be suppressed, and
Number two - there is no amount of money, you cannot put enough zeros after a one, to buy us out and keep this thing from getting out to the public.
“In addition to that, the public needs to understand if anything is to happen to this project that is a suppressive effort, that they should absolutely, if they have to, march in the streets to see that it is released again. There is no time for this nonsense, where these sorts of inventions have been suppressed and where humanity has been left basically in a state of downward spiral of poverty and pollution and what have you. We simply have to reverse that trend.”

Asked how soon such devices could be rolling off the line Greer felt it could be as soon as 2004, but admitted it might take a couple years longer. But whenever it happens all of humanity enters a new era, one with literally mind-boggling possibilities.

Greer explained the new-physics principles which allows such an inexhaustible abundance of free energy:
"As I understand it, if you look at the space around us - not outer space, just the space in the room where you’re sitting -that space and the structure of space and the fundamental level at which matter and energy exists is fluxing out of some very potent field of energy. That’s in some type of homeostasis. And what these technologies do is that they perturb the homeostasis enough to tap into that baseline energy or that energy that’s in the quantum vacuum, some would call it, that’s around us. Matter and energy are fluxing in and out of this field and you can tap into it. It’s almost like pulling energy out of a reservoir of energy that’s there all the time but isn’t in a form that can actually be used. What these systems do is tap into that energy and in the case of the device that we saw, actually converts it into usable, controlled energy on demand …
“There’s such an enormous body of information on this. There’s a new book that Dr. Tom Bearden has put out that’s almost encyclopaedic.”

"But our goal is to be able to do this at least in a generation one stable, usable system, certainly within a year to year and a half. I would like to think sooner, but knowing how things happen in the world, I think it could very well be that long or a bit longer. I would caution we don’t want to take too much longer. We are going to be very aggressively capitalising this, putting the funds into this, so that this can be done and we can collapse timeframes.
“Frankly, Tom Bearden and I were discussing this just before we were meeting the staff of the Senate Environment committee. He said that if these new technologies don’t begin to roll off of the conveyor belt like sausages by around the first quarter of 2004 - given the fact that the biosphere is being so strained, given the geopolitical tensions, we may simply just be out of time. So, I think it’s a stroke before midnight and we really need to make this project succeed.”

This new device is now the second such venture moving quickly toward production within 2 or 3 years. While our foolish and stupid and greedy leaders stand poised to murder tens of thousands of innocent people in a great oil piracy here stands a device to make oil obsolete. Being oilmen, they don’t want to even hear of such a thing. Being stupid, their announced policy on energy is to get more oil out of the earth and burn it. They advocate continued destruction of the atmosphere. Being greedy, they will stop at nothing.

What if the 100 billion dollars they’re planning on spending for their war was plunged into a full all-out effort to develop free energy for the benefit of humanity? Decentralise our power system, for security. Non-polluting power, and a boon to all third world nations. The atmosphere would gradually be cleansed, and everyone could breath fresh air. Scalar healing systems, time-reversing the cells, would keep everyone healthy for very low cost.

I’m hoping to see some new signs popping up at the coming mass-demos which say “RELEASE FREE ENERGY SECRETS,” or “WE WANT THE MEG,” or “DISCLOSE SCALAR WEAPONS!” In a way such a protest would be on a more fundamental level of things than a protest against a war, since disclosure of free energy would end all future oil wars forever! Oil might become a dollar a barrel. Gasoline would no longer be needed. Nothing to fight over.

Greer imagines all electrical devices would someday contain their own power source.

"This type of power system eventually could be in every appliance so that every appliance wouldn’t even need to be plugged in. Eventually you could have construction so homes wouldn’t even have wiring. Every lamp and every appliance could have its own power source. This thing is efficient and miniaturisable - so that you could do this and you would be able to have everything that is made have its own power source and it would completely change the way architecture and construction takes place”

With the advent of free energy the oil companies will topple, and release their terrifying and ruthless grip on our government and our human destiny. Because I believe these new discoveries can make possible an earthly paradise we have only begun to imagine. The oil corporations and energy cartels are not going to take this lightly. But the whole world is now rising up against their war, for the theft of oil, and the world will rise up against their suppression of the truth about free energy.

Dr. Tom Bearden is not a new comer to these perpetual motion machine scams.

From the JREF website:

[emphasis my own]

Here is more dirt on the MEG thingie

[With reference to “Doctor” Tom Bearden]

It’s not even debunking materiel. The “Dr.” Bearden he quotes has a book list, where he apparently published “The Final Secret of Free Energy” way back in '93. I guess it was final until the book payments got spent, 'cause he wrote “Energy from the Vacuum” in Sept. 2002. Guess he found another secret or two.

The thing that really surprised me about that “” site was their Investment Info page, which says their first “stock investment phase” is over. Surprised me, 'cause most of these &@$tards bleed their believers as much as they can. Of course, that page hasn’t been updated since June 22, 2002, but I’ll bet the return on that “investment” is “zero-point” too. (Har har!) This new paper is probably leading to a Phase 2.

From what I can tell, this type of scam includes renting stadiums where exciting looking things are displayed (but don’t touch!), with some almost religeous type chants, then a plea for $$$. As I type this, some interesting links are being posted, so I’ll check them out.

Rule 1: You can’t win.

Rule 2: You can’t break even.

Rule 3: You can’t get out of the game.

It’s not clear whether this device is supposed to be breaking Rule 1 or 2, but it’s definitely breaking one of them. So even without reading the rest of the article, you can be sure that it doesn’t exist.

By the way, the mods will probably want to shorten that post. Even though these advertisers are scammers, they still have copyright rights.

Crackpot index score/annotation:
Starting credit: -5

40 points for claiming that the “scientific establishment” is engaged in a “conspiracy” to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.

20 points for suggesting that you deserve a Nobel prize.

10 points for claiming that your work is on the cutting edge of a “paradigm shift”.

5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards).
11 words @ 5 points = 55
(I gave him a pass on the section headings.)

Whoa, only five minutes and I’ve got a tally of 120, I’d say “Crackpot”.

Keep in mind that:
[ul][li]Stephen Greer is the guy behind CSETI, a group founded to sit around in circles chanting and telepathically communicating with ETs. This is called a Close Encounter of the Fifth Kind (“CE-5”).[/li][li]Every crackpot in the universe has invented a free energy device[/li][li]all claim to be the only ones capable of operating it[/li][li]upon scrutiny the device is invariably found to be a fraud or simply non-operational. Not by some cabal of uber-conspiracy ninjas, but by Joe Scientist who wastes yet another week of his life chasing fairy tales.[/li][li]Measurements of “excess energy” are easily faked or mistaken.[/li][/ul]

I bet you one million dollars it’s all bull.

Yeah, but who is John Galt?

that was thorough, thanks all.


Logical, all that stuff you posted is probably copyrighted by someone. In the future, please provide a link and a short excerpt.

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