I’m going to have another go at this, (then I’m catching a flight so if there’s not a good internet connection in my hotel I can’t respond until Wednesday or Thursday).
The original post here rattled off several groups and beliefs that aren’t the same thing. I am speaking only for White Nationalism.
White Nationalism is a political movement. It is exclusive, but that exclusion is not defined scientifically. It is defined politically, (see definition in my early posts).
There are other groups within the umbrella of WN like a coalition. Those groups and their members have what we call racialist beliefs, (but I’m not going to try to make the word “racialist” fly around here). Some for scientific reasons, some for other reasons. Some for every reason you would have thought, others for reasons you possibly never imagined, (example: European art fanatics who just can’t stand to look at other cultures aesthetically). Some have well thought out beliefs, others don’t. We also include British Nationalists, Russian Nationalists, French Nationalists, and many other more specific and exclusive groups.
It is recognized by White Nationalist that “white” is, for the purposes of pure science, a vague and sloppy definition. You could find pure examples of white, black, asian, etc, using some definition and do better, but the world doesn’t really consist of pure examples.
By their very nature, most racist prefer small groups and organizations. I would. As a racist I’d prefer to be involved only in a small ethnic group such as fellow Germans. But big, global politics are thrust upon us and that’s just the reality we have to work within. Tiny groups by themselves are too ineffective.
So to repeat, White Nationalism’s exclusive group is not scientifically defined. It is politically defined. Speaking politically to a White Nationalist, all the “white can’t be defined”, “race doesn’t exist”, “white doesn’t exist”, “IQ doesn’t exist”, “you don’t exist” arguments are straw men. For the most of it, regarding a giant definition of white including nordics, mediterraneans, and all the gray areas, you are arguing with nobody POLITICALLY SPEAKING. Even for a less specific definition, or an ideology based on pure supremecy, you are arguing with supremists from the the early 20th century and the general musings of a few individuals.
Whites have been defined politically and in our culture and everybody reading this knows it. You know who’s a white guy and who is, for example, a black guy. That border is very clear in the U.S. Nobody has asked you for anything, not even to join us. Nobody has declared war on you or attempted to grab a slice of your property. If you oppose us, I’d expect you to make a moral case that we do not have a right to self determination, not pound assertions about our non-existence using irrelevant arguments.
As a political movement, wish it or not, we exist. We are defined mostly by our opposition and for mostly defensive purposes.
So you’re either a racial separatist or a Communist now? Jeez.
who made a living hating whitey and only got publicly slammed last year when he dared name the… well… you know.