The Super Deficit Committee will officially blow up tomorrow. Is anybody surprised?
I have read the Repubs think they are poised to take over everything in 2012, House ,Senate and Presidency, so they were willing to wait. Then they can stick it to whoever they want.
They certainly were not willing to accept any revenue increases due to the Republican Party president, Nordquist’s instructions.
Today the Repubs are saying on morning talk shows that Obama should have got involved . When it started out, he had to promise to stay out. Gotta love that consistency.
I didn’t expect it to accomplish anything.
Congress will have to do something before the elections, though. Much of the short-term stuff they passed as part of the committee agreement will expire shortly.
They could, I suppose, continue to sit around with their yaps flapping and their thumbs up their asses and ignore the dire straights the country is in. I wonder why such an outcome would not surprise me.
I’m just glad we can blame in all on the Republicans, so much easier than having to think critically.
Critical thinking that leads to blaming it all on the Democrats?
Both parties have more than their share of blame for this mess.
The majority of voters in the country believe that a combination of government cuts and tax increases is necessary to fix the deficit.
Could you point to an example where the Republican members of the deficit committee were working hard to come up with a solution that would be acceptable to all members, be beneficial to the country, and importantly, represent the wishes of most of the voters?
Thanks in advance.
For causing the high level of debt? Sure.
But there’s only one side that is refusing to budge and see common sense. Everyone and there mother realizes that the problem will be solved through a mixture of spending cuts and tax increases. The refusal of Republicans to consider any substantial tax increase is the only real reason this crisis has persisted.
What do you think the democrats did to cause high levels of debt?
(Just to make your head explode, the biggest things Obama has done to increase the deficit have been tax cuts)
Ironically it is the party whose totem words include the phrase ‘common sense’.
Nope, that’s the opposite of thinking critically.
There you go. But the real problem?
As opposed to think, they simply believe.
Haha, that’s your argument? “You silly fools, you take the idea that we have to increase revenue and decrease spending as a matter of faith! You’ve put no thought into this at all!”
Yes, the idea is totally equivelant to a religious belief.
What did they do? They blew their control of the WH, house, and senate. They botched a series of elections. They failed to get a coherent message out. They failed to frame issues in a way that made sense to the electorate. It was all a big game of chicken, and they blinked.
In a democracy, we get the government we deserve, no we have to bend over and take it.
In other words:
Blind faith in their devotion to party politics. Nope, no equivalence to religious beliefs there. An OP full of desperate little picks at the Republicans, and a series of posts desperately trying to back it up.
If you want to blame something for the deficit committee failing, look at the electorate.
So to be clear, you feel that the democrats are at fault because they were insufficiently effective as to curtail the evils done by the republicans, right?
Is the conclusion we’re supposed to take from this is that we should support republicans?
But the thing you were responding to wasn’t about party politics. They simply said that the majority of Americans believe that tax increases and spending cuts is the most reasonable solution, to which you decided to equivocate the word “believe”, clearly meaning here “think” or “make a value judgement” and instead imply that it means an unthinking, unshakable belief equivelant to religious ones.
But it’s especially funny because “tax increases and spending cuts” is such an obvious, middle of the road, reasonable proposal, and you want to try to paint it as a kooky religious belief. That’s such a casually extremist position that I don’t even really think you know what you’re saying.
McDonald’s makes crappy food, everyone knows that, but it is still extremely popular. They don’t force anyone to eat it, they simply provide a product, and it happens that people want it.
The Tea Part and Republicans exist only in so far as the electorate allows them to. They present ideas and people vote. It’s a two party system, so any strength the Republicans/TP have is a direct result of failures by the Democratic Party.
If Burger King made better food (or ditched that freaky looking King in their commercials) McDonald’s wouldn’t have as many customers.
I think some of the opposition to tax increases stems from a sincerely held belief that it’s going to wreck the economy. The other side says that if taxes don’t go up, the government’s going broke. The scary thing is, both sides are probably right.
Yes, both sides are always equally right.
Yes, because every time we’ve had a top marginal rate above 35%, the country has economically floundered. I’m amazed that the US has managed to somehow survive the greatest economic boom in history while the top marginal rates were double what they are now. The current rate is the absolute top rate at which you can have a functional economy, and if it’s raised even one bit, even on a tiny amount of people, the whole thing will come crumbling down, because the primary hinderance to economic activity in this country is the top marginal bracket on income. We’re on the teetering edge - if we increase the top 1%'s taxes by 1%, then tomorrow it’s Mad Max.
FAIR - FAIR is the national progressive media watchdog group, challenging corporate media bias, spin and misinformation. Anybody with firing neurons knows who is to blame for the deficits. The problem is we can not reverse them because the Repubs are entrenched in Nordquisrtan stupidity.
The argument that the Dems controlled the Senate is BS. With the Repub filibusters they need 61 votes to get anything through.
I’m shocked and astonished that this stupid and ridiculous idea isn’t working. When Congress decided this summer that it was deadlocked and punted on making tough decisions on the debt, who could have imagined that a Congressional subcommittee would get deadlocked and be unable to make tough decisions on the debt? Other than, you know, everyone. Next I guess they’ll try to revise the automatic budget cuts - the ones that were supposed to be so intolerable they would force the committee to make some deal, ANY deal, because there was no other choice. Oh, except for going back and changing the triggers. I’m sure that will work out just fine.