So, half a million voters disenfranchised in the state that has the fucking Confederate flag as part of its state flag, and Bricker’s bitch is that someone mentioned Jim Crow.
Perspective fail.
Wait, that’s Mississippi, isn’t it.
Dammit.
We have to understand that this is not a fair fight - the right wing doesn’t want a fair fight. People in the center and left have, for far too long, been complacent. Not showing up in mid-term elections, not showing up in sufficient numbers in presidential election cycles. It would be great if we could say to progressives and left-leaning moderates “just go out and vote,” and for sure, that must be said. But what do we do when we actually do show up and vote, and in greater numbers than the conservatives, and…we still lose? Not merely because we were lazy and chose not to vote, but because many were discouraged against voting?
Anyway, like I’ve been saying, y’all hate me…but you know, deep down in, I’m right.
Shriug, was Georgia ever a democracy? Isn’t this what the second amendment is for, it is it only so that people in Florida can murder blacks? Red state America has always been a shithole.
And if there’s anything that scares Republicans, it’s lots of people voting. Trump can talk all he wants about rigged this and rigged that, but Republicans depend on a rigged game.
What scares them most is black people; black people voting, black people going to the store, black children playing. Black people existing terrifies them. Arm blacks and see how fast Fox News supports gun control. We’re well past democratic solutions in Georgia.
Georgia’s state flag does contain a confederate flag, it’s just a lesser-known one.
If anyone ever saw a Brian Kemp ad, you’d understand what we’re talking about. Take the dumbest Trump pitch you ever saw, and multiply it tenfold. “Haw haw, I got me a big pickup truck to take them illegals back to Mexico.” It’s literally that stupid.
It’s very likely someone this stupid is running some sort of con like Trump. He should be investigated, and it’s probably jail-worthy, and I’d laugh.
Since I didn’t say it, I guess either your reading ability or your ESP must be out of whack.
History of Georgia’s flag:
What Bricker consistently fails to realize is that laws can be changed, and should be in service of abstract notions like justice and morality. Thus, one can say that Kemp should go to jail for this, and mean by that that the laws ought to be changed to make things like what he’s doing illegal. The laws aren’t changed yet, but they should be. It’s possible to make value judgements on bases other than “is this legal or not”, and in fact those who make laws must use other value judgements to determine which laws to make.
So, Bricker, what’s your value judgement? Should this sort of mass disenfranchisement be legal? If you were a Georgia legislator, would you vote for a bill to make it illegal? Why or why not?
So we have Shodan making snarky remarks with no substance, and Bricker willfully misunderstanding in order to have an excuse to attack liberals with a strawman. All because they have to figure out some way to defend something that they know is wrong.
People are being disenfranchised by attempts that claim they are about security. We’re seeing direct attempts to subvert democracy. And rather than say “I know they are Republicans, but they don’t represent me!” we just have people doing whatever they can to kiss up.
Any conservatives want to show they have more integrity than these two?
And the truly disgusting thing in Georgia is the fact that Secretary of State Brian Kemp is the reason Georgia’s -very hackable- voting machines don’t produce a paper trail, and he’s also the reason Georgia turned down federal money for cybersecurity of the voting apparatus.
Yes, he’s quite worried about voter confidence and electoral integrity. (He’s ensuring only the correct voters get the former, and the latter might get in the way of his governorship.)
Don’t forget to knock on doors and phone bank. Don’t give up, ppl!!!
Both Shodan and Bricker both are casually dismissive of oppression, each in their own way, and then, when the oppressed lash out, thet get to tut-tut about the uppity darkies. They are fucking horrible people.
Don’t give up home.
Knock on (white) doors.
Phone bank.
Let’s play.
Deserves? Should? I didn’t even think that was the issue. But really, do you think anytime someone says “that person should go to jail for what they did” a reasonable response is “well, it’s not illegal, so ur dumb”?
My bold stance is simply that one can believe an act is jail-worthy, regardless of whether or not right this moment it is clear that the act would be punishable by jail time.
I can’t believe this is actually confusing or controversial.
Well, Shodan? You wonder what really happened? I’m still curious what part of this you think didn’t happen, and why.
I have a saying that applies in cases like this: The predictable effect is the intended effect.
To one-up you: that only works if we have paper trails. There are enough people at the grass-roots level to volunteer to do the counting of the votes that if anyone tries to tamper with the vote they would contradict the actually impartial vote-counting precinct volunteers.
But not if there is no need for vote counters. What are the mechanisms to prevent vote tampering at a precinct level with computerized voting? Vote counters can’t go back and look at the machines if the machines are suspect.